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Jan

What the hell is going on? UPDATED!

Posted by The *Angriest* Pharmacist as Work Sucks

Everything below is referring to an OLDER POST which was kind of a response to a post from The Angry Pharmacist (TM):

First I got this comment sent to me from my CONTACT form from “Doctor Craig“:

last friday wrote about the 4 degreea as well as the spelling check and caps which are unimportant in a note.this morning wrote a 4 page letter explaining logic in the 12-27-07 letter, he reqd it last friday and got a good laugh.todays letter was rejected so you must not print anything that may imply you didnt know the story.he is my partner ne speaks 6 languages and has mutiple degrees but never uses titles or precribles vicoden which he can spell,my wife is a well paid pharmicist and i took no offense. if you read this letter i will re write letter for your ignorant readers.he doesnt proof read and his perfect record of 33 years isnt important???

Then, I got this comment posted on the older post referred to above from “tv elway, md” who is obviously a huge retard since he lacks the intelligence to express himself with written word. I would imagine a conversation with him is as enthralling as talking to a rock:

for all you uninforned assholes,first notice this is not in caps!!my parnter and best friends wife is a pharmacist at a major grocery store ad she will admit it is the easiest job and when i read last week i was actually published i got a dictionalry and learned how to spell vicoden and even lortab which is hydrocodone which in the 33 years i have been practicing i have never prescribed the frug and refuse to,when i do surgery they get ultram and or darvocett. then i can count on a pharmacist callinf and asking if i realized i gave 2 pain meds an always when i give anti biotics its for 7-10 days and then a 25 year old dr. want to be pharmacist will call and ask why 10 days the book says no more than a week. we also have a system for fraud which we rarely get taken and i do press charges, ill write 38 in 2008 and 39 in 2009 never with refills and pharmacys know if it is mine, we get a few “losts” scripts but we handle individually and if its stolen we need a police report to take to pharmacy and i still get calls. all replacements must have notorised letter to be replaced and controlled drugs are only replaced once. on major surgeries i might prescribe 18 oxycontin,6 times in 2007 all over 65 years old. i explain all medications as well as side effects and how the medications react with any other current meds.then the nurse brings in the rx and goes over questions,so by the time they see the pharmacist all needed is count the pills and run through insurance unless patient has questions and in our area its the tech the pharmacist doesnt have time.most pharmacists earn thier money and do have responsiblity its the young ones that i have to pay for 2 extra phone lines and they still want to tell me how to prescribe.we do recommend mail order to low income if it is long term usage on our internal medicine practice as long as they keep thier appointments or we give them samples but i keep no controlled. in 33 years i have had 4 malpractice cases, 3 dismissed and the 1982 casse was settled out of court in 1988 for a medicaid person who had no injuries just wanted to never work again,so my dea number is last of my concerns. so the assholes who say i have no degrees and speak 6 languages, does that mean i am smarter or above you i think not, i make mistakes like should have retired in 1996 when i was making 450k instead of 6 day work weeks 10-12 hour days for 125k, but i would do it for free. anyone want to put up something about my credentilals? I COULD BE A LYING DRUGGY WANTING ATTENTION. sorry i got carried away with the caps. glad i could raise your rating for your website, i thought it was a joke. maybe ill send a couple movie clips youve probably seen me before even though i am not a house hold name but bottom line the world needs to hear all sides before making a judgement. im not a dr. because i dont proof read and use large and small letters, i can live with it. t. elway,md facs
scripts

Finally, I got this email kicked back to me somehow. I don’t know if it’s from The Angry Pharmacist or if it’s an error message from my “E-mail Post” plugin which allows readers to email a post to a friend with some remarks. Regardless, it’s equally retarded.

Sorry, address must include host name. (#5.1.3)
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From: <randy.hoover@hooverhearing.com>
To: “‘prescription’” <wwwprescriptiondrugplanet.com>
Subject: RE: Dr “4 Degrees” and the Caps-Lock key eludes him - The Angry
Pharmacist
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:42:09 -0500
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Did you get the email today from dr.e and his numbers as well as dea to
prove you and your readers that you can be wrong?? For something that was
toungue in cheek it sure got you a lot of readers we all read it 1/25/08 and
it was a good laugh enough that we have it hanging in our waiting room and
after blocking our 3 of every 10 words out of the 95 patients a day at least
15 make a comment that it must be a real pharmacist that is disgruntled and
hates his job.tried not to use caps or bad grammer or caps in an informal
note,had no idea what your site was but have started reading it as we
phycians get a good laugh after double shifts and watching the pharmacist at
Albertson asleep, like I said my wife is a pharmacist and that doesn’t make
her dumb or lazy she knows how well she has it plus benefits and
retirement,she is way up the ladder as well as most pharmacists versus the
audiologists we put up with dailey, one of our specialities is otology, that
is ear infections,hearing and aids as well as stapedectomy surgerys invented
by dr. shea in Memphis tn, say for not proof reading this also but I think
you can read it if a couple words are turned around you are a phd,and
thankfully not an md with that language that you use. God bless you and we
pray for your soul and that you find happiness. C.r.shultz,md f.a.s
_____
From: hoover [mailto:randy.hoover@hooverhearing.com]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 8:20 AM
To: hoover
Subject: Dr “4 Degrees” and the Caps-Lock key eludes him - The Angry
Pharmacist
http://www.theangrypharmacist.com/archives/2007/12/dr_4_degrees_and_the_capslock.html

Someone, please tell me what the fuck is going on. I’m so confused - it’s like the 3rd day of Organic Chemistry all over again. I think we have a few illiterate doctor’s trying to play games with myself an the Angry Pharmacist…I think they decided to screw with the wrong two motherfuckers.

I’m not playing anymore. YOU’RE BOTH FUCKING RETARDS! (If there is more than one person capable of being that incoherent) Stop talking yourself up. You’re not smart, you can’t speak X languages, and you don’t have X degrees. You’re probably some (illegitimate) fuckhead from DrugBuyers trying to be smooth and BAIT us somehow, but piss off! Stop trying to argue with me via email. Stop visiting my site. You’re hereby banned from reading my excellence. Fuck off, twits. If you cannot intelligently write an email (that’s not one long ass sentence), then please, save the world the trouble and beat yourself about the head with a PDR until your are unconscious. Then, go take an entire bottle of aspirin and die a slow, awful, hypoxic death.

UPDATE: The Angry Pharmacist’s POST about this

UPDATE 2 (2/2/08 at 4:21pm):

Your Name: t.v. elway (74.132.81.94)
I am a: Doctor
Email Address: rockhear@yahoo.com
Website: http://theangriestpharmacist.com
Comment:
Need to learn to read i didnt say i was going to sue you for slander,you told your readers you knew where i was and at the same time wouldnt give my email,i told you to. The hanging on my walls was being a smartass my patients dont deserve that.The threats came from you as i am messing with the wrong person,afraid not i am right here you are in hiding and i have narroed down where you are and a pretty good idea who you are, so keep laughing.

UPDATE 3 (2/2/08 at 4:27pm):

Your Name: john elway
I am a: Doctor
Email Address: rockhear@yahoo.com
Website: http://theangriestpharmacist.com
Comment:
I assume you have problems with georgia where they have no teeth and physicians who work in the bahamas.I agree you will be fired when your employer reads your site.Right or wrong,you work in the public and worse yet the healthcare field and are expected to be politically correct as well as professional. John Elway


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Real Molly Bloom stuff. Sounds like he/she could use some risperidone.

“tv elway,md” is actually Dr David Roberts and I claim my £5 (or $5).

Amen. I hate when folks won’t capitalize, punctuate, spell-check and/or arrange their thoughts in proper paragraphs. It’s not hard people. If fifth graders are expected to do it , you shoud put forth a minimum of effort and write as if you had a few firing synapses left!

It seems like the same crappy grammar in each letter. This is either a big hoax, or proof that we have found the two biggest idiots ever to bear the designation M.D.

Posted stuff from TAP/TAestP in your waiting room for patients to read, wow. What a professional practice you have. Do you have a bunch of Hustler magazines sitting in the waiting room as well?

My material is all COPYWRITTEN! If he has it posted in his place of business, his ass is mine. Cha-Ching!

It has to be someone with a twisted sense of humor. No one with an M.D. would ever fail to capitalize the the degree’s initials.
They also must have much idle time.
Perhaps we should have sympathy for someone
with such an affliction.

FOR THE RECORD I WOULDNT GIVE YOU THE ADVERTISING BY HANGING THE TRASH YOU WRITE ON MY WALLS. FOR AS SMART AS YOU ARE I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD FIGURE THAT OUT, SORRY FOLKS MY NAME ISNT DAVE AND HERE IS YOUR CAPITAL MD.SO SUE ME ILL BE WAITING FOR A COUNTERCLAIM OF SLANDER!!

Man, you are a fucking dumb ass East Georgian Tard-hound. First off, you are an idiot for saying you are going to COUNTERSUE with SLANDER. A counterclaim is related to the initial claim (right?) - and I am typing as are you so it would be LIBEL! So, double-fuck you.

Secondly, you and I are on the internet, so your rights are a tad bit shadier. And, we’re both dealing with a ton of anonymity here. You are going to have a HELL of a time figuring out who you I am. My name isn’t on the site, my WHOIS is a private registry, no one will ever know my IP(and therefore my location), and I don’t even tell fellow pharmacist bloggers my real name. Additionally, since I cannot tell who “tv elway,md” actually is - I can’t be held liable for saying he is a STUPID FUCKING RETARD and a MISSED ABORTION OPPORTUNITY. I could just as easily be thinking I’m talking about John Elway as a real person somewhere. And, if I ever knew your real name and referred to it instead of a pseudonym, I can sure as hell do that if I want. And you’d better damn sure know that I will. Try me. We’ll see what would win - freedom of speech or some idiot doctor that got mouthy with a few pharmacists. Piss off, wanker.

Finally, you’re spoofed/bounced email that I got admits that you posted my shit and “after blocking our 3 of every 10 words out of the 95 patients a day at least 15 make a comment that it must be a real pharmacist that is disgruntled and hates his job.”

Thanks for saying my site is trash but continuing to visit each day, reading it, sharing it with your friends, and posting for your “patients” - I’m now referring to your patients as roobs. They must be to go to someone as ignorant as you. I considered calling them “future Donda West’s of America” but that’s long, harsh, and more of a club that no one wants to join.

Come on, nobody seriously believes this twit could possibly be an MD? He can’t even correctly spell the names of the drugs he supposedly “prescribes.” Even a drug addict knows how to spell “Vicodin” and “Darvocet.” The extent of his medical education is probably a vaginal exam of his second cousin.

“The extent of his medical education is probably a vaginal exam of his second cousin.”

Michelle, you’re a bad person. You made me cough scotch. Ever coughed while drinking scotch? Don’t.

Mary Augustine says February 3rd, 2008 at 9:54 am

Up in the north country, they call this time of year–cabin fever, and get together to celebrate the heritage known as Fur Rendezvous. All last week it’s been Mardi Gras. Whatever. It’s been funny to read the back and forth. Somehow, I sense some of the commentators are not who they purport to be, but it’s been funny to think that they could be rational devils.

Couple Questions:

What is DrugBuyers?

What kind of doctor prescribes Ultram and Darvocet to someone who just had surgery? Is he a total fuckwad?

He speaks several languages? Obviously, one of those languages is not English, am I right or am I right?

countrydruggist says February 4th, 2008 at 1:57 pm

Every profession has dipwads that the rest of us wish would find something else to do. I’m sure some real MDs do read these blogs, however, they don’t waste their time commenting on blogs outside their own profession. They realize that every job has its frustrations and they acutally get the point. Its entertainment! So read enjoy and get over your dumb ass self Dr. Craig or whoever the hell you are.

When did they drop English 101 from the Pre-Med curriculum?

I don’t know TAP, I think the good “Doctor” is going to try and find you. You just better hope he doesn’t talk like he types!! I don’t think this moron could spell Plan B correctly, and now we all must suffer since it wasn’t around years ago for his mom to use.

Anyways, I still think this guy is not a doctor. My proof: I am a pharmacist, which is an easy job (According to Dr. Doolittle), and even I don’t have as much time to devote to this site as this sad excuse for a medical professional seems to have.

Finally, JOHN ELWAY SUCKS!!!!!

He’s gonna chase my shadow for a while.

It would take a hell of a legal team and some serious lawsuits/allegations to pry my identity from behind the hands of my host.

The only way for him to break the code would be to catch me posting on a fellow blogger’s website. They would be able to divulge at least my IP, ISP, location, browser, and other assorted computer related info. From there, there’s some more legal hurdles to get the identity behind the numbers unless you’re some sort of hacker or seriously in the know.

It’d be easier to just email me, make friends with me, and ask me who, what, where, and why….

PS - I concur - Elway sucks - who wins the SuperBowl and retires?…:-)

Shalom (R.Ph.) says February 5th, 2008 at 10:23 am

First of all, there are indeed some f*wit doctors who prescribe Darvocet post-surgery. I was unfortunate enough to get one back in ‘94, when I had hemorrhoids removed. Not major surgery, admittedly, but still painful, especially as it triggered a levator spasm that lasted all night. Not knowing any better, I accepted this RX and had it filled (I wasn’t a pharmacist yet); I found that Darvocet is approximately 10% less effective than M&Ms for pain control. Went back the next day and demanded something stronger; he gave me Vicodin (which made me nauseous as hell, but sometimes you have to choose whether you’d rather be nauseous or in pain).

Also, if I may play devil’s advocate here for a moment: It doesn’t surprise me that a real doctor can’t spell Vicodin. First of all, it’s a made-up word, not something you could look up in your Funk & Wagnalls. (It’s easier to trademark an invented word than one found in a dictionary, which is why Humana chose that name.) Besides, I’ve seen plenty of misspelled drug names on prescriptions over the years, and I’m sure you have as well… nothing new there.

I also should point out that this particular name seems to be a regional thing. When I was an intern in the Buffalo/Lockport/Niagara Falls area, I never even heard of Vicodin other than as a name in a book: all the doctors round there wrote for Lortab 5/500, (except for that one maniac who insisted on Zydone *capsules*: that’s the same guy who would always put DAW on *Zyloprim*, for $DEITY’s sake, so I dunno what was his problem) and the big bottle of generic HC 5/500 tabs was shelved under “L”. The only thing we kept by “V” was the Vicodin-ES, and nobody wrote for that anyway: if they wanted 7.5mg of HC, they’d prescribe Lorcet-Plus. (MDD=6 vs 5) Wasn’t until I moved back to the NYC area that I started seeing scripts for Vicodin, and I spent much time trying to argue prescribers into using the lower-APAP-containing varieties rather than the Vic-ES. I’m older and more cynical now, so I generally don’t do that unless I have them on the phone anyway. You’d be surprised how many doctors (and especially dentists) aren’t aware of the 4g/day limit on APAP… anyway, it’s actually possible that he doesn’t write for it every day like the docs around here.

Or he could just be an idiot. No way to tell from where I sit.

As to doctors commenting on non-MD blogs, you do see a lot of doctors on nursing blogs, especially ER nurses’ blogs. Not so many on pharmacy blogs.

@Suzy: DrugBuyers is a forum for those who wish to purchase medicines, especially controlled substances, through the Net without a legitimate prescription. They offer some valuable resources, namely lists of MDs who will write scripts without a face-to-face exam, and those pharmacies who they have suckered into filling said scripts; who stocks Watson instead of Mallinckrodt (I always thought Mallinckrodt was the OEM of the raw powdered narcotic that the other guys make into tablets, but I could be wrong: the druggies seem to think that the Watson is better for some reason, and don’t like Qualitest *at all*. Maybe I should stock only QT, that way I won’t get this crowd here); which sites are rip-offs and which are legit, at least to the extent of giving them what they paid for; that kind of thing. Google it and be enlightened. I suppose some of them are actually legitimate chronic pain sufferers, but I doubt all of them are, especially when someone posts stuff like:

“I was driving down the highway and managed to spill about 75 or 80 hydros all over the floorboards of my truck.I don’t think the 5 second rule should apply in this case seeing how it took A good 1/2 hr. to get my big hands between the seats and scoop them up. p.s. also found 2 gaviscons and an old ear plug. MERRY CHRISTMAS. ”

The *Angry* Pharmacist has been quoted on that forum, and he links here, so it’s not inconceivable that someone from DB is trying to yank our chains. (Although it’s very unlikely that any poster at DB won’t know how to spell Vicodin…)

Shalom

Quote:

“Also, if I may play devil’s advocate here for a moment: It doesn’t surprise me that a real doctor can’t spell Vicodin. First of all, it’s a made-up word, not something you could look up in your Funk & Wagnalls.”

What’s wrong with his PDR? I’ve never been to a doctor’s office that didn’t have one immediately available.

Drug Buyers is actually quite a good read for laughs with post like:
“I have a valid RX for oxycontin but need to find the cheapest online source to get it filled. Does anyone know where this might be?”

I think the chronic pain patients over there make-up about 2% of the total posts.

alittle late maybe? I just had to add my .02
OMG the person who wrote that letter is a doctor? Very scary, whatta retard @@

Leave the poor dr. alone! he seems like a nice guy. We all make mistakes. I love you all

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