Sounds like a UOP student.

…My faith in humanity has just decreased by about 20%. I understand being nervous in front of an evaluator and/or camera, but come on…it’s like they stuck a random dumbass in a white coat and said “here counsel this guy”.

I heard him say “do you get anything filled at Walgreens?” — enough said right there

I’m about 99.7% sure that’s fake. I’m pretty sure that the papers he’s looking at is a script, esp cuz the patient seems to be looking at one also. And I’ve had to do these, as you said, and while it’s awkward, it’s not quite as terrible as that. And I saw some pretty bad ones.

How did the “patient” maintain his composure - I would have been laughing my behind off…or somewhat concerned with the whole “may cause death” thing

Hard to see what the point of it was, since there obviously is a display of a knowledge deficit. Am sorry for anyone who gave an earnest effort and seriously participated in the exercise, especially in that a random voyeur kept the video and sent it to YouTube. Humiliation at its worst. On the other hand, after a few years of experience, and six years of pharmacy school, the participants should be able to look back on it and be able to say that they hope no one could believe what they were saying, but that someone might have, and they have been passed the mantle to be more honest than the scumbag selling snakeoil on the internet.

That…Was…So….PAINFUL!

I remember one counseling practise session at UB; I had to pretend that the “patient” in front of me was a new Coumadin user. Problem is that the grad student that was my “patient” was about eight months pregnant. I had a bad moment wondering if they’d deliberately assigned her to me to see if I’d catch that it’s in Pregnancy Category D. So I asked her, “Before we start,this drug shouldn’t be taken during pregnancy, is there any possibility that you’re pregnant?” and she said that she and her husband were thinking of it but not at present. I said “So your pregnancy isn’t part of the scenario, then.” and she giggled and said no.

I hated those practise sessions. I kept getting marked down. At first they told me I wasn’t making enough eye contact; then after I started doing that, they wanted to know why I was staring at the patients. (I didn’t know about Aspergers’ then, and neither did they, so they couldn’t figure out why I was having so much trouble “communicating”. Hell, I thought I was doing OK, I just can’t do the touchy feely “Aww, you seem upset, I’m sorry you feel that way” bullsh*t. I’m a pharmacist, not a social worker, I can impart technical information regarding medications in an understandable fashion well enough, and as far as I’m concerned that’s all my job requires.)

Shalom, you are perfectly correct. We are paid to impart technical information to dumbasses on their level, whilst remaining professional. We’re not paid to be wet nurses. A patient accused me of being a robot, no feelings or emotions. I said, “Well, at least i’m not sugar coating it for you and you get the exact situation. I’m here to tell it as it is, not what you want me to say”. If a pharmacist shows sympathy instead of empathy-they become easy targets; especially for the lonely and dejected. Enough said.

First I want to say that I do hope this is a joke but either way let me reassure anyone who takes the time to read these comments that this was taken from a pre-pharmacy student who had little, if any, pharmacy classes. That being said, the “pharmacist” in the video was NOT accepted into pharmacy school and was asked to leave pre-pharmacy school due to his grades. I do not foresee him doing well enough on a PCAT to return to any pharmacy school, at least I hope not.

Rx4U:

Why on earth would a school have a mock consultation over drugs that they have little to no information about (let alone the profession/therapeutics as a whole)? Consult me on quantum physics or some other subject you have little to to no idea about and we can all laugh at your mistakes.

How can you “hope it was a joke” yet know what happened to the student in the video? I doubt this was a joke. Last thing that I did in pharmacy school was to “consult” people as a joke.

What your saying makes no logical sense, both how you know the outcome and why a school would set a student up like that then video tape them. It doesn’t make sense.

I’m not sure how many of you have seen the movie Slingblade or not, but if you have then you will really appreciate this…

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i22/gocubs_88/vlcsnap-983065.jpg

Angry Pharmacist: The school has the consultation not for drug information but for communication skills. We had the competition in the communication class and the profs just tried to tie it into pharmacy, we were not graded on any pharmacy knowledge just com skills. We also had to do it again our P3 year and yes we were then graded on our knowledge and com. skills. For the joke part, any student can request a video recorder or could request our video lab and record themselves prior to practice their skills and obviously this student needed it. Also, if you went to pharmacy school I hope you had consultations without real patients, they are just other students.

Angry Pharmacist:

As I said this student was still in pre-pharmacy and the school has the communicaiton classes have consultation practices not to practice drug knowledge but communication skills. The patient is just another student and obviously this student needed com. practice.

As for the joke part, any student can check out any of the A/V equipment or can use our video lab and practice all they want or again joke around all they want. Therefore, I hope he was just joking but again as you said I doubt it too, I just said “hope.”

I am not sure how me knowing the outcome makes no sense. I am either lying about it or I know the outcome because I am a recent alum of the institution. You being the “Angry Pharmacist” are probably cynical and therefore do not believe a lot of what you read and I am not trying to change that. Howver, I was trying to somehow defend my profession, the future of the profession, and restore “I Have Toes” faith in humanity.

IT’S REAL

It is real. Unfortunately. I am pretty sure the school even pulled the video off of youtube. It is a pre-pharmacy class and they are provided with talking points but a lot of this I am sure was not on the sheet. I love how he says there is an interaction that may cause death then goes right in to having smaller capsules that are easier to swallow.

Sometimes you have to thank the Lord for atrition rates. I think I would rather stick my dick in a toaster than unleash him on the streets with a lab coat and degree.

I remember the kid and have a pretty good idea what class this was for, although I’m not sure who filmed it or for what reasons. I know they didn’t film ours. It would appear that the instructor is sitting to their left, so I’m guessing they filmed it for review later to determine grading. How it got leaked out is another relevant question.

The best way I know how to put it is:
“Mr. Madison, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

What matters is there is no copyright protection or notice on the video. It was found on the internet which is public domain.

I don’t know that this was leaked out so much as unleashed upon the public.

Sadly I attend the same college of pharmacy as the “pharmacist” in this video and it is entirely real. I’m fairly sure he failed out last semester though.

It’s ridiculous what the American schooling system is like; especially if they perform “counselling tests” on individuals to see if they are “suitable”.
No amount of counselling prep could prepare you for the real world and real patients.
Universities leave us naiive, and then we go to the university of life and discover all is not what it seemed.
BTW I’m not saying that the schools of pharmacy you guys attended are crap, I just think that the system of selection sounds wrong.

someone should take this kid and smack the shit out of him.

I know why my comment was deleted, but seriously, we have a floater pharmacist like that, and I had to fight tooth and nail to have her barred from working in our store.. ever.. again.

Sara - all comments were deleted once it reached like 45. We started anew, and here we are again!

Hilarious! As someone mentioned earlier, as students we are recorded giving counseling sessions far before our first therapeutics class. I believe my 1st attempt at counseling was my 1st class in school (called communications). We were told what drug problems existed and they just wanted to see if we could talk like a normal person. Clearly this student is just making up his own theories about drug interactions and not sticking to the script. Or it could be the example of what not to do for the class.

I had the class with the kid. The purpose was to CORRECTLY counsel the patient. Needless to say, WTFPWN!

I know this guy. He was on my school bus in 11th grade. He would eat boogers and pick zits. Hopefully, he did flunk out and is now gainfully employeed as a greeter at WalMart.

So I know someone who was in the room with this kid grading him. He had suffered some sort of mental attack prior to this counseling session. I do believe he was deemed mentally unstable and released from the school. Since our school combines pre-pharmacy with the pharmacy program they have quite the weeding process. They take kids out of high school straight into pharmacy school. Obviously we get some bad ducks. The session was taped for the kids to self assess their session (we are big on self assessing). The video was put on our public drive, someone saved it, and then obviously put it on youtube.

Makes me sad that this guy is in pharm school while I got rejected this year. Now I know I don’t want to be a pharmacist. I think I will instead get a PhD, invent a new drug and make sure the manufacturer changes what it looks like every month just to piss off guys like him.

Hahahaha WTF was that? I HOPE he is not a real pharmacist LOL

[...] — The video of the BAD Consultation has been downloaded 1500 times since it was posted. [...]

I used to work in a pharmacy with this guy. I can completely believe this is TRUE!! This is how he acted with patients and our staff.

This is not a joke video and has got to be real. I have watched it several times now, laughing hysterically more each time. There are too many odd mannerisms and statements made, moments of awkwardness, that very few legitimate actors would be able to convey as this guy did. It reminds me of the show “The Office” . If it is fake, they need to find out who this guy is and make him part of the cast. Best lines: “my bad”, “the zocor and lisinopril will inert each other” but at the same time later on in the video they “can cause death”, but the best line of all: just the moments of odd bodily mannersims and awkwardness when no words are spoken, pure movie magic!!! I am a RPH and love the website which I have just stumbled upon.

where is this video

The last two words of the post…

CRAPPY CONSULTATION