Why it has taken the powers that be to drag their feet until the friggin’ year TWO THOUSAND EIGHT to start requiring all prescription documents to be on security paper is the laugh riot of the year for me. If I had my way, verbal RXs would be forbidden, and all RXs would either have to be written on security-paper hard copies or be sent securely by electronic transmission. Twenty-five years ago, this would have saved me the trouble of having to call the police twice. I’m sure you folks out there have done it a lot more than that.

Try this–have your bank try to call in a personal check to your phone company to pay your phone bill, and see how far you get in paying it that way!

We have MANY fakes coming in because we work in THAT kind of area. Totally judgmental but true. I am a pro in getting these people into a conversation and my Boss calls the cops. Here is the kicker: You have to fill the script, let them pay for it and leave the counter. This way the cops “might” be able to do something. Usually they just let them go home. I find it disgusting and nobody cares. Most of them actually try to use some kind of Government issued Insurance on top of it. This is where our Tax$$ go. I called Medicaid on one person and sure enough 2 weeks later they are able to fill ANOTHER script and Medicaid paid for it. So, who cares? -I still do-

They forgot the:

“Before you fill it, do you have it in stock?”

All of our fakes want to wait, in store, because they need it now.

My pharm tends to talk with them real sweet, like something outside of patient control happened tot he prescription and could the patient please call the MD and get it corrected? More than one person has turned beet red and fly out of our store utterly humiliated.

Huzzah, druggie soccer moms.

A few things for suggestions 6.

If you get the script then follow TAestP advice #6 (but call the doctor first). Most of their offices open around 7-9 am (before or when the pharmacy opens up). They usually follow up quickly since it’s their license as well.

The 24-hour pharmacies will have rougher job at it. I would suggest holding the script and asking the patient to pick it up in the morning since you need to clarify the directions/strength/insurance/quantity (err… oxy 5 mg 2 PO Q4?) .

Not too sure of state laws, but mine says that if the doctor screws up on the script then we need a new one and rip/hold on to the old one. So you can’t give the old one back, plus you got a little leverage on the person in question (how you use it is up to you).

I will try to get them arrested. We have had some success. The best (most pathetic) was a woman who was chug-a-lugging her 8 oz of vicodin tuss as the cops nabbed her. They came over with her purse that had multiple Rx’s with mult names etc.

we had the SBI come in. some girls from my old highschool had stolen a whole pad and had figured out how to sign it really good. percocet 10/650 #100s all over the place. my dad couldn’t turn it down cause it looked legit, and the doctor had issued a prescription to the girl. which was filled elsewhere…we found out later. that was interesting.

I’ve never actually seen any arrests — the pharmacists where I work always just tell the customer that we don’t have it in stock, then call all of the neighboring pharmacies to give them a heads up.

My favorite altered prescription was from a guy who claimed that he ran over it with a tractor. A TRACTOR. I work in the citiest-city on the east coast that isn’t NYC. I have never seen a tractor in my life.

The script was all tattered and smudged, but it was clear that it was for percocet 5/325 #20 and was altered to say #40

OH and a crazy patient once claimed that I stole his vicodin prescription!! HE called the cops!

He was in drive thru, asked me to look at his prescription and tell him the strength, so I had him slip it through the window (it was vicodin es). I gave it back, processed the rest of his prescriptions, told him the prices on them, then he flipped out saying I took/lost his vicodin prescription

The cops came, searched the pharmacy, couldn’t see anything on the security camera, and told me if it went to court it would be my word against his (WTF… court?! ME?!)… then they found it. In his car. Under the driver’s seat.

I personally never found the arrest route all that rewarding. It’s pretty much a guarantee that you’re going to have to waste a day of your life in a courtroom as a possible witness. Then after waiting around all day they’ll send you home without actually testifying or anything because the prosecution decided to drop the piddly little forged prescription charge in exchange for a guilty plea on some other crap that you probably don’t care about.

I’ll admit it was kinda fun to lay the trap for the clown and then help spring it……but the big payoff just wasn’t there. I found that telling them you were out of stock tended to work really well….maybe the 2-bit crooks are a bit more trusting around here…..i’d tell a guy that oh yeah…we’re out….but our order comes in between 4 and 5pm…..and every time the perp would be there at 5pm. Must have thought they were being sneaky by not showing up right at 4….But after doing that a few times and not having anything good come from it, I developed my own hybrid technique.

1- Check with doc to make 100% sure your hunch that this is a forgery is correct. You want to put your ass in a sling and get sued right out of the game.

2- Mark prescription as fake, and document all over it your call to the doctor.

3- Try your best to make sure you have a good audience. “Forget” to give out a couple scripts to people even though they are right in your waiting area and they’re all done

Now for the fun part…..
4- Take out all your frustrations with all the crummy customers that wronged you (since the last forgery) on the perp. Berate the hell out of them and give them the script back.

5- Return to your normal routine; renewed and refreshed.

What are they gonna do? Tell on you. Yeah…that jerk pharmacist was mean to me when I tried to forge a prescription for oxycontin. I really couldn’t imagine that complaint going anywhere so I let them have it. All those times you had to bite your lip cause someone was a jerk to you but not enough to blast em…..well here’s your chance.

Done correctly…..your audience won’t even mind waiting the extra couple minutes….they’ve got some free entertainment, and can go home knowing that their pharmacist is doing their part to help prevent prescription drug abuse. :p

ren

Ours always wait for the medication too. I stroll past them and lock the front door before I ask them about it… tends to upset them but I’m 6′ 4″ and we don’t get guns too much in the UK;)
They all wait for the police :)

Locking the door would be a no-no in most places in the US. Knowing the way our society is so sue-happy, the scammer might sue you for kidnapping, mental distress and/or some other bullshit.

The worst was when I was working at a chain, and one of the front store workers came in with a prescription for Vicodin. I didn’t catch it (only an intern!), but my pharmacist noticed that it was a little fuzzy, and had me call another local chain to see if they had a record of her.

Well, by golly, it was one of the new Medicare scripts with its own personal 15-digit number on it, and my goodness, that other chain had the exact same script.

That was awful. How could she put us in that position? We all knew her, and while we knew we should call the cops, we didn’t. She’d have lost her job. We just gave her an extremely stern talking to, scoffed at her “I didn’t know making a copy would be illegal”, and told her we weren’t filling controls for her anymore.

Tough situation. What would you have done? I think, in the same position, I probably wouldn’t have been as lenient as my pharmacist. Going back though her profile and comparing it to the other chain…she’d been toying with us for a while with this nonsense.

I believe bitch woulda been crying in a jail cell.

The best one I ever had was 2 guys in the drive-thru picking up a legitimate Rx with a PHOTO-COPIED $100 bill (yep, you read that right!) It was late at night (24 hr store) and the local police screamed into the parking lot, surrounding the car. Scared the guys good!

Locking the door would be a no-no in most places in the US. Knowing the way our society is so sue-happy, the scammer might sue you for kidnapping, mental distress and/or some other bullshit.

Kidnapping?! hahaha

Psh…I ain’t even jokin’!

This happened about 3 weeks ago-
Patient dropped off script for Percocet 5/325 ’s 1 t po bid. Took her DOB, told her it would be ready in 30 minutes, and she drove off.
Took a closer look, and realized it was on a Pediatrician’s RX. Called ( this was around 7 pm) and he said call the cops.
Cops came down, hung out in the parking lot of the restarant across the street until I called him to say she was back ( in drive-thru) while my PIC sold her the script.
The “fun” part if you will was the conversation between me and the cop. I was hidden, giving him a play-by-play of what was happening. And when I told him she was leaving he said on his phone- “AND SHE’S BUSTED!!!!!” My PIC and I could see the flashing lights through the window. The cop had blocked her exit.

( scared the heck out of the guy in the car behind her though!)

I have no qualms about calling the cops. I’ve had at least 4 people arrested in the store, plus a few more in the parking lot after leaving the store. The key part of success is getting a very good description of the perp. One time, I thought I had given a good descirption, but then when the gal came back (is it ready yet? no - give us another 15 minutes. ok, I’m going to mcdonalds, be right back) I realized I had the color of her coat wrong. I called dispatch, gave them an updated description, and said perp had gone to mcdonalds. The deputy came in 20 minutes later and said they busted her in the mcd’s drive through.
I’ve even gone as far as calling the DEA when it was obvious the doc was in on it - trading scripts for sex, apparently…

When I used to work retail, I had a guy drop off a script to my tech and head off to get something to eat (I never saw him). This was about 4:30pm. My tech was laughing when he showed me the script. It was a legit script for 30 Percocets written in black BALL-point pen. This guy decided to change the “3″ to an “8″ with a black FELT-tip marker. Give me a break!

We called the cops. By the time he came back, the evening pharmacist had taken over so I still didn’t see the guy.

My tech, the doctor & I were called to testify in court. I had to ask my tech which guy it was! He was going to plead innocent but when saw us there he decided to change his plea to guilty. I found out the next week from one of the cops in our area that he had changed his plea back to innocent claiming that we had altered his script, not him. That’s right…we were having a slow day so we decided to screw with some deadbeat’s life! I guess he forgot that he had priors!

The couple times I’ve called cops it resulted as follows:

1. A pain med patient on 160mg oxycontin/day at a pharmacy i only worked 2 months at. By month 3 , I did some checking and found some evidence of fraud/seeking, so I turned the matter to authorities. This lead to a 6month long investigation….of ME!!! For dispensing meds the first 2 months. I didn’t know this guy from adam, i was just getting a feel for the place, he was never early, just fishy…what the f am I supposed to do.

2. A rx presented to me from ER with exact date, drug, directions as 2 days previous. Called ER verified the dr “wrote the first one, thought he was going to change it, threw it in the trash, went for a new rx blank, decided not to change it wrote another rx. Patient must have gotten it out of the trash.” Called cops, arrest made, 2 days later in my store again for more narcs and again I ended up getting “raided” by the Board of Pharmacy.

3. Guy called for Rx for dead mother, obit in paper today. Called cops, arrested guy no charges. Luckily this time no investigation on me.

I no longer get authorities involved because I simply cannot handle ME ending up in more trouble then the bad guy. Now the Rx just gets marked on and given back with a warning to not come back. Its not worth my licence to see someone arrested.

The best one I ever saw was the guy drops off a fake Rx for Percocet with his real name on it. He comes in to pick it up and I ask to see his ID. He gives it to me and I tell him, “Hold on a sec” and call the cops. The cops are like, “Do you have his name” and I say, “I’m holding his driver’s license.” The cop starts laughing and they come and arrest the guy. The funniest part is that the patient was standing at the register waiting like an idiot the whole time!

I also worked at an independent pharmacy that used to fill Rx bottles with Skittles and sell them to the dudes who brought in fake Rxs. Since they all pay cash, he’d just take their $50 or whatever and leave them with about 50 cents worth of skittles in a 40 dram vial. HAHA!

Can’t really say I agree with that second part…

I remember a patient a couple of years ago coming and dropping off a script about 10 minutes before closing and saying she would wait for it. Of course she then stands at the counter and stares at us to see if we fill it. It seemed fake as the date was written as XX/XX-0X, and the signature was perfectly readable, normally the doc’s handwriting is worse than chickenscratch. Of course as the pharmacist and I are looking it over and not filling it immediately, the person bolts out the door, guess that answered the question of whether the person was passing a fake. Best part came the next day when I had to call the office on it and they had us fax over the script. And we would always write down the name and driver’s license # of the person dropping off. I’m on hold while the nurse gets the fax and shows it to the doc, she come back and tells us they’ll deal with the patient (the pharmacist didn’t want to call the cops as it would be “too much of a hassel” if he had to show up in court). The patient was no longer going to be a patient at that office as the dummy stole the script pad from her own doctor.

just last week we had a guy come and drop off a script for endocet 5/325…he was a new patient so he filled out info and wrote down the WRONG bday…if you’re going to steal a RX pad, forge an RX, at least get the fake birthday right. And then he wanted the RX back to take to WalMart…because it’s “cheaper” there.

Having someone arrested at the counter is the most rewarding pharmacy experience (ha). Makes up for all the other 45624 legit asswipes that you got to deal with recently.

Usually I miss the action and hear about it later, but one day (when I was a Tech) I was actually working when this kid came in with an altered Rx. He proceeded to stand at the drop-off window and stare as if he took his eyes off us and his Rx his whole plan would vaporize instantly. (Red Flag #1) Once the fake was confirmed (and we got him away from the drop off window over to the pick-up window, where he continued to stare like a puppy underneath the dinner table) the cops were called and we stalled and stalled. “The printer is jammed, it will be just a few minutes.” etc. He then got a phone call and proceeded to tell everyone around how “he has it” and they are going to “meet you in just a few minutes at X location” complete with a description of his vehicle “X SUV with BIG X inch rims with spinners, you can’t miss it” (LOL he’s a balla!)
The cops put him in cuffs and read him his rights right there at the counter with other customers around! YAY! High fives were passed around the pharmacy. His friends in his pimp-mobile must have left him for dead soon as the cops pulled up, because they were no where to be found. We did inform them about the dudes Rx selling plans also.

Another favorite is the ones who not only fake a narcotic Rx, but also fake the horrible pain they are in that requires them to have it. Come on seriously, we can tell your faking, and it only just sets off more red flags. As if we were going to say “I’m sorry sir, we can’t fill this Morphine because you don’t appear to be in severe enough pain.”

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I came across this forum accidentally, and it is just unbelievable how bitter, vitriolic, and happy to laugh at another’s misfortune are most of the posters here. I suppose all those abuse customers and nagging old people really cause a lot of rage to get pent up, judging by these posts here.
I mean, why else do I read the gleeful accounts of how you not simply bust the hapless script-writer, but also relish in humiliating him–and as one poster made sure to point out, delaying service to a few other customers in order to have “audience”!

Why do you feel this way, people? Those poor bastards that try to pass a fake or altered script, have you thought for a minute how they feel, why they do what they do, knowing the risks? You are supposed to be educated people; do you really think that those engaging in this type of criminal behaviour do it for kicks? They are near the bottom of the ladder among addicts. They are not like Rush Limbaugh, and they cannot afford to send their maid to score OxyContin for them. And yes, they truly *are* miserable, and they get punished (disproportionately, one might say) for these non-violent crimes severely enough. Why compound their humiliation by deriving such obvious joy from their predicament? (One of the posters even talks about the pharmacy staff giving high-fives to one another after a bust).

Sure, it’s easy enough to detach ourselves by refusing to identify with them as fellow human beings. After all, they are the lowest of the low, liars and cheats, right? But what does it say about us, exhibiting such glee when we help to put an addict behind bars? They say that addiction is a disease, and yet it’s the only psychiatric illness that’s punished so severely in our society. Do you think it’s a lot of fun, trying to put together enough money to be able to buy some pills on the street? Or getting humiliated by every person in one medical office after another, until they find a doctor willing to write a prescription that lasts only a week or two, with any luck? Treatment for substance abuse is not always available, and when it is, it’s very different from the experience we hear celebrities discuss after finishing their 5-star rehabs.

Please, just take a minute to think what it makes us, when we derive such great joy from subjecting non-wealthy addicts to various humiliations, some of which are described in the posts above. It puts me to shame, realising that I am a part of the human race, if the latter means expressing tremendous joy at the sight of someone else’s misfortune.

I hate to break it to you, Smith, but the reason most of us take delight in it is that the vast majority of the time, people playing the game (doctor shopping, pharmacy shopping, fake Rxs) are not playing it because they themselves are addicted. They know better. They’re selling.

They’re selling to those poor hapless souls you say you empathize with. So, Smith, how do you feel about taking delight in stopping another sale? Stopping another supplier? Nipping a potential addiction at the bud, for, without a supply, perhaps that dealer won’t be able to sell to the first or second time buyer. Perhaps a dealer will switch to something else, another fad - but it won’t be prescription drugs, it won’t be because of us, the pharmacists and pharmacy staff.

So, Smith, how does /that/ make you feel?

Are you kidding me???? Maybe we should just GIVE these winners some pills because we should feel sorry for them. How about the once who are now robbing us with guns so they can have some pills? There is a choice people. We live in AMERICA. You have a choice to drink and go behind the wheel. You also have a choice when you go to the MD for pain to say at one point :”I believe I might have a problem here and stop, or ask the MD for some help.” Smith, why don’t you come to my workplace and see whats going on. I am amazed that there are some people who really believe the druggies are the victims. This type of thinking is whats dragging down the American society. Lets just excuse EVERYTHING. No social rules. To the last question of what it makes us? I tell you. It make me sick and tired of people trying to take stuff which they did not earn. Looking at me lying to get some pills. At least let me have 5 minutes to smile about them when we catch them It is not like I am allowed to shoot them. But then again, EVERYTHING is being excused in now days. Maybe I would be considered at VICTIM as well.

WOW! Smith, Wow. It amazes me that you are also a member of the human race along with me. Yes, high fives. You and your attitude are what’s wrong with society. Criminals are not victims. They are criminals. lol

You act like we are cheating little elderly ladies out of their osteoporosis medications. I have no idea where you work, or if you even do, but what if you were in this type of situation? What if someone came to your job, and tried to deceive you, your co-workers, and your company? Would you like it? Would you think this person was a victim? Would you let them proceed with what they are doing? Would let someone get away with trying to insult your education and job skills?

People arrive in the situations they are in because they chose to be there.

Hey Smith, take Joel’s situation and add a knife or a gun! How does that make you feel now?

Erin is right…it’s typically the dealer, not the addict that tries to fake a script. I do feel sorry for people who are addicted to medication and I think we should do all we can to help them. I have no such empathy for the dealers that helped the addict get in this state.

Wise up Smith. Why don’t you visit a busy pharmacy any where in Canada or the US. See what retail pharmacists go through all day every day. After you do that, post what you found out.

I am sorry to see some of you resorting to many media-propagated stereotypes and non-truths (not to mention personal attacks) in order to further your view of the world. Oh well, whatever makes you feel better, I suppose. And Joel, you say that I and my attitude are what’s wrong with this society…I can only pray that were the case, because we’d be a much better society then.

I feel like I won’t be able to have an intelligent conversation regarding the subject, however. It does amaze me that some of you are so willing to accept ideas that neatly fit into your worldview–true or false, it seems to be besides the point. For example, the claim that most people trying to pass altered or fraudulent scripts are dealers. Or the long-misguided notion of our failing War on Drugs that fighting supply has any perceivable effect on drug abuse in North America. Or the one the people with no first-hand experience really love to use, the myth of a strung-out junkie robbing people at gun-point (research indicates that narcotic addicts very rarely resort to violent crimes in order to finance their habit).

But again, I am afraid my words are falling on deaf ears here. You accuse me, my attitude, and drug addicts of what’s wrong with this society. Look up at the amount spent on our War on Drugs, and compare it to the damage caused by drug addicts. Trees? See? Forest?

Good-bye. I won’t be reading here anymore, don’t worry, so you can go back to trading your “war stories” about how you helped cops bust some poor bastard. I didn’t believe all those stereotypes about burnt-out, jaded, hateful pharmacists, who refuse to fill out a controlled prescription on principle…until I came here. Now, I can’t help but wonder.

I think we should all be glad that I didn’t get involved in this conversation.

Smith, ask any pharmacist or pharmacy technician if they’ve ever had a gun shoved in their face. Ask if it’s happened multiple times. I know I have. If most pharmacists have had this happen to them, what’s up with your “research”? Give me an analysis, give me statistics, give me an article, please, and I’ll believe you.

Until then, we will share our personal stories.

Also, we all know you won’t be able to resist coming back here, to see what people are saying and replying. Which is why I’m commenting again. Get off that high horse!

Smith, one question. What is it you do for a living?

I’m sure there are a number stereotypes about your job as well, whether true or not. Come on, ‘fess up.

If you feel that you can paint an entire profession, even a subset of it, with one brush, I would like to know the painter.

His IP address tracks back to Reston, VA, but his email was, obviously, facetious.

LOL at us “resorting to many media-propagated stereotypes and non-truths.” I don’t even have a TV. I get my view of the world from what I see with my own eyes in reality. It happens to back up what we are saying, not what you are.

Falling on deaf ears? I like how my reasonable scenario I set up for you was completely ignored, probably because there was no reasonable response that would still support your argument?

It just is sticking your head in the sand. While I have not been robbed (yet), I know several pharmacists who have been robbed, some at gun point. Some of the pharmacists who post in this blog have been robbed, and I’m sure the rest all know someone who has. It’s all to often when I hear reports of stores in my district being robbed, pharmacists being shot, etc. But that’s all a myth right?

Lets have some TAestPh comments!

Ya know, to an extent, I agree with Smith. I don’t think high fiving is necessary. I don’t think taking joy and getting your rocks off from busting a fraudulent script is right. I don’t. I don’t think we should get our jollies from someone else’s pain. Some work environments suck — and that may be the only joy experienced in a month’s time. While I would rather better the environment, if the cheap thrill of police intervention makes your days a little better, I don’t hate you for enjoying it.

Still yet, high fives and woo-hoos are all too unecessary.

Thanks.

You pretty much wrapped it up!

Joel you’re a real piece of work I must admit, taking enjoyment in other’s misfortunes. As a EX-drug dealer I will let you in on a little real world info, “Dealers” do NOT mess with places like you work at, when the option arises we will just out-right buy what we want directly from the pharmcist who is more than happy to sell the items in question. The “majority” of the people you get into trouble are unknowing or just plain ordinary people or for the most part just stupid.
I have had legit scripts questioned before and twice I had a pharmicst steal methadone from me (I was a pain management patient for over 9 years), I had her ass promptly fired and her licences revoked, I now make my own medication and I’m not addicted anymore and my health has returned to normal. But the truth of the matter is these “drugs” as you call it are easily found anywhere in ANY city/location without the need to see someone such as you, and they are cheaper than anything you have access to. They ARE NOT obtained from pharmacies.
Once I even had a person refuse to fill a legit script saying I didn’t need it (like they knew more than the doctor I saw) and she called the cops, they came and the cops called the doctor directly and sure enough they told the pharmcist to NEVER call them for something as silly as her actions, then the head office demoted her to a assistant (apparently this wasn’t the first time she tried that).
Now on the other hand I’m in agreement with everyone that it is a sad state of affairs when someone resorts to violence to obtain anything and it should never happen in any circumstance, there is no reason for it. And for the person that stated that is what’s wrong with the USA, well the truth of the matter is that what is really wrong with this country is the greed in human nature which so abounds in everyone and this makes it conductive to such actions. I was NEVER an addict till I tried (pain management) the “legal route” and that cause my addiction to methadone and bad health and a nervous breakdown all due to the side-effects of the chemicals that are included in the medications I was prescribed.
Thank God I had a smart/decent human being for a doctor (he is one of the top doctors on the east coast, that has at times given reports to the heads of different governments) and is very well known and respected, but to many people’s dismay his hands are “tied” by state/fed government officials who know NOTHING of real world applications of some medications.
Personally I couldn’t care less what someone like you could ever say because you don’t know or understand what is really going on. Someone did mention to the best way to handle such a circumstance and that would just call the script in beforehand and if it is fake then write on it in a felt-tips marker as fake or just throw it in the trash and notify the local pharmacies once it is confirmed as a fake, trust me when I say nothing will be said about it.
If someone did in fact lock the door to keep them inside that person/company would be guilty of “barring a fire escape” according to OSHA standards. If a person has a job that is so boring for them then they should find different employment or just get a hobby that has plenty of excitement for them, NOT try to get excitement at the expense of someone in dire straits. You should try to get them help thru the medical community, that is what it’s for.
You have heard of the term “Forgiveness” haven’t you? If not you should read try reading the Bible, it just might give you a different outlook on things.

You are all over the map here. You bash a pharmacist for smiling after getting someone arrested, but you certainly got your rocks off on getting on pharmacist fired/license revoked and another technician “demoted to assistant by her head office cause she tried that before.” Pot calling the kettle black? I think so…

I also thoroughly enjoy the fact that a drug dealer uses the old, “read the bible” charge to insinuate someone else is a bad person. Nonetheless, the bible is a horrible place to send someone to learn about forgiveness. I mean slaves, stonings, smiting, crucifixions, poor treatment of women…WOW! Not to mention the contradictions and downright fallacies.

I think you “might” notice I said Ex-drug dealer, no I didn’t have them fired they did that all own there own. I wasn’t the first person who had complained, they were already under investigation. I was just using those as examples to show you it works both ways, without any reguard of who you are, no more or less. Truth hurts doesn’t it, to know you can be just as dis-honest as the next person. That soapbox just doesn’t quite fit you.
If you would take the time to translate it back into the ancient language which it is written in you will see it doesn’t contradicts itself. The Bible doesn’t permit mistreatment of women, crucifixions were man’s doings, murder is NEVER allowed for any reason. As far as the other you will have to be more specific.
I do notice that you have about the same mentality as many who like to look at the world with blinders on without looking at the whole picture. The ONLY reason I even said anything I found it funny someone with a education such as you could have the same outlook as most have who happen to “bask” in there own ignorance. But feel free to beleive anything you desire.
If you want to contuine this we will have to do this by email and feel free to post my replies because I have no desire to visit this place.
mitchell@etinternet.net

This guy is a fool. I pointed out his hypocrisy, and he couldn’t handle it. As far as the contradictions in the bible, here’s 194 in the New Testament for you to chew on: http://skeptically.org/bible/id6.html

Don’t test me, fool…

A fool huh? Ok whatever makes you happy, There has been more intelligent people that has tried and failed to prove there point all because they lack the ability to stand on there own two feet, I asked you to explain yourself not some answer from someone else. Looks like you actually failed the test without me having to do anything. Kind of like the blind leading the blind spouting the party line.
And you wonder why this country is in such a bad shape, it is because most people don’t take the time to think for themselves but instead would rather take the easy route and just follow orders.

I thought you weren’t coming back, dickweed. I love how you have such an intelligence-superiority complex, and your little rant is filled with grammatical errors, poor structure, and pointless dribble.

You no longer make any sense. You have no points. Stop typing — you fail at life.

I just went and looked at the sites you mentioned and picked one statement at random.
On the old testament I picked #1, the statement on the site was completely wrong, it never said anything it listed as the second choice of #1
On the new testament question I picked #6, the statement on it is wrong on the second choice. If you would read it for yourself you will see David is listed as a son of both that are traced thru the lineage, in ancient times a person is the son of there father and also they are classified as a son of the grandfather also and so forth.
The real fool is someone who refuses to prove or disprove something but instead would rather take the easy way out and just rather be lead along like sheep.
You really should brush up ancient history and religion before you decide to take on a Seventh-Day Adventist, we believe nothing anyone tells you instead we find the answers thru study and research. Kind of like one time a so-called preacher tried to tell me the term Anti-Christ wasn’t listed in the Bible, well until I let him read it for his own eyes, and the term religion has nothing what so ever to do with the worship of the creator, plain as day in James 1:27.
Bye now I’ll leave you to your own devices, have fun.

You did it again. You used the bible to try and prove a point. That doesn’t work.

BTW - don’t comment again. I no longer care what you have to say, and I’m not getting into religious diatribe under a post that was about busting a fake prescription.

I work part time as an intern at a pharmacy in a large city, in the wealthy part of town. I turn down sudafed to at LEAST 1 carload of meth users on the days I work (If we don’t see them come in as a group we aren’t allowed to just profile a “suspicious” individual), and hear about at least 1 forged/altered script a week. We don’t attempt arresting people. It’s not worth it, and like was mentioned before there are always repercussions for being honest (Like it being turned around on you!). Nice guys finish last…such a true statement. . We simply tell them we know what they are up to and alert the doctor if possible.

But the want for justice is strong. There is nothing I hate more than the injustice of someone lying and taking advantage of me. I want justice as much if not MORE than that druggy wants his/her next fix. It just seems to me that in the US it’s too easy to get away with a petty crime, or sue someone for ridiculous reasons. We see it every day, and we all shrug our shoulders. This pisses me off. If I had a damn clue what to do, I would do it. I think I am on the verge of hiding in the cozy cubicle of a mail order pharmacy.

wow Mitchell

After I LOLed a bit, I was able to regain my composure to type this post, which is really not necessary because we can all see that you are the “real piece of work” by your own admission. Anyone can see that from reading your post.

“I now make my own medication and I’m not addicted anymore”

wow..
I’m not even going to say anything but wow.

“…we will just out-right buy what we want directly from the pharmcist who is more than happy to sell the items in question.”

okay

“…lock the door to keep them inside that person/company would be guilty of “barring a fire escape” according to OSHA standards.”

But it was the UK… I don’t think OSHA matters there.

Seriously now, I am still amazed at how when someone attempts to pass a fraudulent script and reaps the consequences it is a person’s misfortune.

Let’s say you are at the zoo for example. If someone accidentally falls into the wild cat pit and gets maimed I would consider that a misfortune and feel bad for that person.

On the other hand, if someone intentionally jumps into the wild cat pit and taunts the tigers and gets maimed, I consider that being f-ing stupid. Not only is it hard to feel bad, it may be hard not to laugh.

I consider trying to commit a crime and deceive a health care professional for your own gain similar to the latter example.

It’s sad this deteriorated to a religious discussion. I won’t touch that.

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I think this is the best website I have ever been to. I love it I want to take this site and put it on some national blogs. This is good stuff. I think you should keep the debate going. Druggies vs. Pharmacists who wins? I will keep posted. I have friends that are pharmacist that have become the Junkies and I have friends that are pharmacist that are middle of the road guys and think most people are good and then somone screws them over and they became jaded. You guys have to be very smart people to go through all that school and I would get tired of people trying to cheat me and possibly make me lose a license that I worked my butt off for. So I would probally just call and verify the script in question and tell the customer it was fake and pass a card out that stated a number for a good rehab center. I think most people do not enjoy being druggies and want a better life. They usually do not act this way and it would be easy to be bitter. I think people look up to pharmacist and I know I do and if somone in that postion told me some truth I would listen and maybee if you are lucky 1% will. Making a difference in peoples life and your own is the best reward ever. I love this site just stumbled upon it. I think everyone deserves to vent and you guys should not be any different. I think that is what this is all about, but for most people they think Doctors, Pharmacists and other professionals are not normal people. Good luck to all of you

I think alot of you pharmacists are very rude people. For example, I am 28 with a very bad back injury and have been 240 Norco 7.5’s a month for the past year. Month before last I had my 3 month check up with my neurosurgeon and he switched me over to 180 percocet 7.5’s. Long story short, as all you pharmacists know that if the doctor wrote my script out that day then by law I am allowed to get them. But lo and behold, I went to go get my script and the lady at the pharmacy denied me and told me that I couldn’t have them because I was 7 days early. (went to the doc on 26th of Nov.) The only reason that I went back on the 19th is because that is when the DOCS OFFICE scheduled my appt so I could come and get my refill due to the holiday. When I went to drop them off, the lady treated me like I was a freakin drug addict. In reality, I just cant afford the gas to come home and then go back on the 26th being that I live 48 miles from the pharmacy. I think that some of you all could work on your manners. Not everyone is a drug addict. BTW, I made a point to go back and get my script the same day she told me that she wouldnt fill it (12-19-08) and took it elsewhere and had no problem getting it filled. And once again, no I am not a drug addict but I happen to be going out of town Sunday and wont be back until after the new year and I hurt to bad to go almost a whole week without my meds. But to the good pharmacists out there, keep up the good work and merry christmas.

For fuck’s sake — it’s because your doctor is a fucking idiot. Why in the fuck would he want you to choke down all these pills? You need to be converted to a long acting pain control regimen like oxycontin or fentanyl patches — using Norco or Percocet as an adjunct for breakthrough pain.

Ohh…and everyone that gets 240 Norcos goes on vacation every three weeks. Did you know that?