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		<title>By: Tom Gaspert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Gaspert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an end stage cancer patient it is so encouraging to find that so many pharmacists are such unfeeling assholes. You bastards should all rot in hell. If you wanted be Drs then go back to medical school.  Yes there are drug addicts, liars and cheats that try to scam you each day, but you made the choice to be what your are. I sure the money is a great enticement rather than trying to help sick people. I truly hope you suffer from some of the  conditions that you so eagerly laugh at one day. All of you can go straight to hell.

&lt;strong&gt;How many packs a day do (or did) you smoke?

Go fuck yourself. I have all the empathy in the world for those that are ill and seeking help. I do NOT give a shit about those that do not give a shit about themselves and refuse to take their healthcare into their own hands and do one fucking iota of work.

How is me balking at calling 75 doctors a day (many several times) show that I am uncaring, unsympathetic, or anything at all?  My pharmacy fills 800 scripts on a Monday  --- 550 of those are refills. I can&#039;t care for patients that are there seeking my counsel if I am on the phone with YOUR doctor calling to get YOU a refill on YOUR soma. 

I fax doctors the second you request a refill. You want a call? Pick up the goddamn phone melanoma man...&lt;/strong&gt;



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an end stage cancer patient it is so encouraging to find that so many pharmacists are such unfeeling assholes. You bastards should all rot in hell. If you wanted be Drs then go back to medical school.  Yes there are drug addicts, liars and cheats that try to scam you each day, but you made the choice to be what your are. I sure the money is a great enticement rather than trying to help sick people. I truly hope you suffer from some of the  conditions that you so eagerly laugh at one day. All of you can go straight to hell.</p>
<p><strong>How many packs a day do (or did) you smoke?</p>
<p>Go fuck yourself. I have all the empathy in the world for those that are ill and seeking help. I do NOT give a shit about those that do not give a shit about themselves and refuse to take their healthcare into their own hands and do one fucking iota of work.</p>
<p>How is me balking at calling 75 doctors a day (many several times) show that I am uncaring, unsympathetic, or anything at all?  My pharmacy fills 800 scripts on a Monday  &#8212; 550 of those are refills. I can&#8217;t care for patients that are there seeking my counsel if I am on the phone with YOUR doctor calling to get YOU a refill on YOUR soma. </p>
<p>I fax doctors the second you request a refill. You want a call? Pick up the goddamn phone melanoma man&#8230;</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Sherry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a problem WITH a doctor who enjoys making me wait for my 2 refills that they have found is the only 2 medications that work for me, to keep me comfortable.  Yes, I have been one of those that calls the pharmacy quite often but with no choice  because the only way I can ask for refills is by leaving my request on an answering machine at the doctors ,and then they screen it and decide if they feel like and when they feel like calling in my refiils.  I have no insurance, and almost 60, had too many tradgedies in my life time, and yes, need the medicines to help stabalize my severe nervousness and osteoarthritis, and fybromyalgia.  The medicines are Vicodin for the pain in low dose, and Xanax to help calm my nervesness  from panic attacks and meeting new people , both legitimate conditions.  Well, I put in a request for my 2 refills about 3 days early, because we had a long driving trip, causing extra pain riding in a large pickup and meeting strange people.  Her comment  I was told,  it`s too early, (3 days?) and she will never fill them again because of that!   So now what do I do? Where`s the compassion anymore? Does it no longer exist?  I realize they are both controlled medicines, but they keep me functionable.  (sometimes certain medicines like that are completely legitimate) for certain conditions in certain people. So, suggestions would be great to help me continue being able to get my medicines next month when I had a doctor like that who quit me?

&lt;strong&gt;Find a new pharmacy that makes you happy. Find a new doctor that calls in your refills in an adequate amount of time. 

Next time, if the TECH tells you that bullshit, tell her you are out of refills and it will take those three days to get the refills. We know it was a tech because I would hope a pharmacist would have the ability to make the connection -- whereas a tech only sees that it&#039;s early and he/she now gets the ability to enforce the pseudopower denial sword normally held by the pharmacist. Most techs love telling people NO and busting people trying to pull bullshit.

FYI, long term Xanax is never legitimate. It should be used for a very short period. If you have continued anxiety attacks, you need to be stabilized on something that&#039;s not habit forming and won&#039;t make you a freaking zombie -- like Paxil or Buspar...And don&#039;t give me any bullshit about how Xanax is the only thing that works or that you&#039;ve tried those and they didn&#039;t work. I won&#039;t buy that shit. You need to take these long term and use the Xanax as an adjunct for 1-2 mos. Then you can likely just discontinue using it as those meds would control Generalized Anxiety Disorder very well. 

Finally, Vicodin is a poor treatment for &quot;fibromyalgia&quot; -- which is kind of a made up disease. If it is a legitimate thing, it is likely related to nerves and nerve pain which would be best treated with Gabapentin or Lyrica along with Amitriptylline (which would conveniently help your anxiety).&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a problem WITH a doctor who enjoys making me wait for my 2 refills that they have found is the only 2 medications that work for me, to keep me comfortable.  Yes, I have been one of those that calls the pharmacy quite often but with no choice  because the only way I can ask for refills is by leaving my request on an answering machine at the doctors ,and then they screen it and decide if they feel like and when they feel like calling in my refiils.  I have no insurance, and almost 60, had too many tradgedies in my life time, and yes, need the medicines to help stabalize my severe nervousness and osteoarthritis, and fybromyalgia.  The medicines are Vicodin for the pain in low dose, and Xanax to help calm my nervesness  from panic attacks and meeting new people , both legitimate conditions.  Well, I put in a request for my 2 refills about 3 days early, because we had a long driving trip, causing extra pain riding in a large pickup and meeting strange people.  Her comment  I was told,  it`s too early, (3 days?) and she will never fill them again because of that!   So now what do I do? Where`s the compassion anymore? Does it no longer exist?  I realize they are both controlled medicines, but they keep me functionable.  (sometimes certain medicines like that are completely legitimate) for certain conditions in certain people. So, suggestions would be great to help me continue being able to get my medicines next month when I had a doctor like that who quit me?</p>
<p><strong>Find a new pharmacy that makes you happy. Find a new doctor that calls in your refills in an adequate amount of time. </p>
<p>Next time, if the TECH tells you that bullshit, tell her you are out of refills and it will take those three days to get the refills. We know it was a tech because I would hope a pharmacist would have the ability to make the connection &#8212; whereas a tech only sees that it&#8217;s early and he/she now gets the ability to enforce the pseudopower denial sword normally held by the pharmacist. Most techs love telling people NO and busting people trying to pull bullshit.</p>
<p>FYI, long term Xanax is never legitimate. It should be used for a very short period. If you have continued anxiety attacks, you need to be stabilized on something that&#8217;s not habit forming and won&#8217;t make you a freaking zombie &#8212; like Paxil or Buspar&#8230;And don&#8217;t give me any bullshit about how Xanax is the only thing that works or that you&#8217;ve tried those and they didn&#8217;t work. I won&#8217;t buy that shit. You need to take these long term and use the Xanax as an adjunct for 1-2 mos. Then you can likely just discontinue using it as those meds would control Generalized Anxiety Disorder very well. </p>
<p>Finally, Vicodin is a poor treatment for &#8220;fibromyalgia&#8221; &#8212; which is kind of a made up disease. If it is a legitimate thing, it is likely related to nerves and nerve pain which would be best treated with Gabapentin or Lyrica along with Amitriptylline (which would conveniently help your anxiety).</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a technician, I find it incredibly frustrating when patients do not have refills and refuse to take any responsibility in getting them. Whenever I tell them that yes, we have faxed the Dr. every day this week and still haven&#039;t heard a response, they become outraged and expect that you should be calling the Dr. until they get what they want.

Am I stupid for thinking that when a Dr. writes a script with 3 refills, he or she is suggesting that the patient should make another appointment when those 3 refills are up? Obviously they want to see how the patient is doing on the medication and if any changes need to made. But people disregard this and expect to get refills on that script for the rest of their lives. GET A NEW SCRIPT!

They just need to call their Dr.&#039;s office after we&#039;ve faxed/left a message on a refill line to ensure the job gets done. It is not up to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a technician, I find it incredibly frustrating when patients do not have refills and refuse to take any responsibility in getting them. Whenever I tell them that yes, we have faxed the Dr. every day this week and still haven&#8217;t heard a response, they become outraged and expect that you should be calling the Dr. until they get what they want.</p>
<p>Am I stupid for thinking that when a Dr. writes a script with 3 refills, he or she is suggesting that the patient should make another appointment when those 3 refills are up? Obviously they want to see how the patient is doing on the medication and if any changes need to made. But people disregard this and expect to get refills on that script for the rest of their lives. GET A NEW SCRIPT!</p>
<p>They just need to call their Dr.&#8217;s office after we&#8217;ve faxed/left a message on a refill line to ensure the job gets done. It is not up to us.</p>
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		<title>By: Iva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we have a handy little sticker that i put on the outside of the bag when you are getting your last  refill. if you are particularily stupid, i helpfully circle the big fat &quot;REFILLS = 0&quot; on your bag, your receipt and just to rub in your total stupidity, on the label too. i know how shocked you were last time when you had no refills left after all these subtle reminders, but its no reason to cuss me out when i tell you to call the doctor yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we have a handy little sticker that i put on the outside of the bag when you are getting your last  refill. if you are particularily stupid, i helpfully circle the big fat &#8220;REFILLS = 0&#8243; on your bag, your receipt and just to rub in your total stupidity, on the label too. i know how shocked you were last time when you had no refills left after all these subtle reminders, but its no reason to cuss me out when i tell you to call the doctor yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Weird Situation &#124; The *Angriest* Pharmacist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weird Situation &#124; The *Angriest* Pharmacist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kaiye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaiye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is this wrong?  You tell me.
I was in my pharmacy Wednesday, waiting for a prescription re-fill.  The two ladies who work the counter and the lady pharmacist were talking about a customer who had just phoned.  
&quot;who is Mrs. L-----?&quot;
&quot;dunno&quot;
&quot;well, her daughter just called and she says her mom needs a re-fill on Vicodin&quot;
&quot;hahahaha! Fat chance!&quot;
This is a small town.  Everyone knows Mrs. L. and her daugher.
Should they be talking like that?  Isn&#039;t there some kind of pharmacist rule about client privacy?
Embarrassing situation, I won&#039;t be back there, that&#039;s for certain.

&lt;strong&gt;When patients are seeking early refills or cause problems -- even just one time -- their name is remembered forever. They, unfortunately, get labeled as a drug seeker or problem patient.

Concerning this situation, for all you know Mrs. L could have already called 10 times that morning and her daughter called while you were there.

While the comment was unprofessional, it was intended only for the ears of employees that are all trained in the protection of private health information. 

That&#039;s exactly why I do not allow people to lurk around my counter -- I FORCE them to go sit down in my little waiting area -- out of direct earshot. If you were at the register, however, picking something up -- that is a different story. Comments like that should not be made while someone is at the register or close enough to hear the comment.

Honestly, I would just speak with the manager -- discretely -- perhaps by phone and let him/her know what was said, that you think it was inappropriate/unprofessional, and that the staff there needs to be notified of the fact that their words could be heard by more than just the pharmacy staff. If you wouldn&#039;t say it in front of that patient, you probably shouldn&#039;t say it at all. While they won&#039;t fire or even reprimand anyone, it&#039;d be a good opportunity for some retraining.

What&#039;s really weird about the situation is the fact that it appears the pharmacist (or someone) didn&#039;t even know who she is -- yet they said &quot;fat chance&quot; about the refill. It&#039;s confusing because people can have refills on pain medicine -- and some people take it consistently for many many years w/o issues. Why the person would act like &quot;fat chance we don&#039;t refill that&quot; on a medicine that can be refilled is weird.

Some medicines (in the C-II class) aren&#039;t allowed to have refills. These are meds like Percocet, Oxycontin, Adderall, Ritalin, et al. Maybe they said one of these and the employees realized she couldn&#039;t have a refill and maybe you misunderstood the drug name? 

I&#039;d still call em...&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is this wrong?  You tell me.<br />
I was in my pharmacy Wednesday, waiting for a prescription re-fill.  The two ladies who work the counter and the lady pharmacist were talking about a customer who had just phoned.<br />
&#8220;who is Mrs. L&#8212;&#8211;?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;dunno&#8221;<br />
&#8220;well, her daughter just called and she says her mom needs a re-fill on Vicodin&#8221;<br />
&#8220;hahahaha! Fat chance!&#8221;<br />
This is a small town.  Everyone knows Mrs. L. and her daugher.<br />
Should they be talking like that?  Isn&#8217;t there some kind of pharmacist rule about client privacy?<br />
Embarrassing situation, I won&#8217;t be back there, that&#8217;s for certain.</p>
<p><strong>When patients are seeking early refills or cause problems &#8212; even just one time &#8212; their name is remembered forever. They, unfortunately, get labeled as a drug seeker or problem patient.</p>
<p>Concerning this situation, for all you know Mrs. L could have already called 10 times that morning and her daughter called while you were there.</p>
<p>While the comment was unprofessional, it was intended only for the ears of employees that are all trained in the protection of private health information. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s exactly why I do not allow people to lurk around my counter &#8212; I FORCE them to go sit down in my little waiting area &#8212; out of direct earshot. If you were at the register, however, picking something up &#8212; that is a different story. Comments like that should not be made while someone is at the register or close enough to hear the comment.</p>
<p>Honestly, I would just speak with the manager &#8212; discretely &#8212; perhaps by phone and let him/her know what was said, that you think it was inappropriate/unprofessional, and that the staff there needs to be notified of the fact that their words could be heard by more than just the pharmacy staff. If you wouldn&#8217;t say it in front of that patient, you probably shouldn&#8217;t say it at all. While they won&#8217;t fire or even reprimand anyone, it&#8217;d be a good opportunity for some retraining.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s really weird about the situation is the fact that it appears the pharmacist (or someone) didn&#8217;t even know who she is &#8212; yet they said &#8220;fat chance&#8221; about the refill. It&#8217;s confusing because people can have refills on pain medicine &#8212; and some people take it consistently for many many years w/o issues. Why the person would act like &#8220;fat chance we don&#8217;t refill that&#8221; on a medicine that can be refilled is weird.</p>
<p>Some medicines (in the C-II class) aren&#8217;t allowed to have refills. These are meds like Percocet, Oxycontin, Adderall, Ritalin, et al. Maybe they said one of these and the employees realized she couldn&#8217;t have a refill and maybe you misunderstood the drug name? </p>
<p>I&#8217;d still call em&#8230;</strong></p>
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		<title>By: StressedOutPharmacist</title>
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		<dc:creator>StressedOutPharmacist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soo, patients don&#039;t want to bother their doctor but they are willing to call the pharmacy 10 times in an hour because they are leaving for a vacation in 2 hours?? I don&#039;t get it!! We are the middleman when it comes to refill requests.  Call the doctor&#039;s office directly and explain to them what&#039;s going on and they will call us.  If they don&#039;t, you know who to yell at (not me)!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soo, patients don&#8217;t want to bother their doctor but they are willing to call the pharmacy 10 times in an hour because they are leaving for a vacation in 2 hours?? I don&#8217;t get it!! We are the middleman when it comes to refill requests.  Call the doctor&#8217;s office directly and explain to them what&#8217;s going on and they will call us.  If they don&#8217;t, you know who to yell at (not me)!!</p>
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