The *Angriest* Pharmacist You want your prescription filled when? Eat shit…

The importance of lifelong learning

Posted on December 19, 2011

I got this guest post submission from a student and found it pretty funny. I'd be there are a TON of pharmacists that are just as clueless here in the states. If you don't use it, you lose it. I know that I don't remember a lot of the intricate stuff I knew back during and right after school. But, I do read, learn, and occassionally challenge myself. This is one of the reasons I like to have students. Constantly explaining things to them helps me remember it, and at the same time, they will know things that I do not remember. Having them teach me benefits me with knowledge and them with recollection and presentation. If you want to keep up and remember stuff, get some students on rotations -- trust me. CE's are worthless in general. When compared to students, they are a waste of time.

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I understand the Unites States requires every pharmacist to get a doctorate prior to becoming qualified. However, in Australia, it isn’t required. It is still an undergraduate degree, so we come out after only four years of studying, do a year’s internship, pass our registration exams and we’re done. Every year, we have to enough “points” every year to remain registered as a way to encourage our ongoing learning.

As I’m still in my third year of my degree at the wonderful University of Sydney, we are required to undertake externships, where we get sent to pharmacies for “workplace experience”. I undertook my externship at a medical centre in Sydney’s north.

As one would presume, the entire purpose of my presence there was to learn. The medical centre pharmacy was small enough for only one pharmacist and pharmacist assistant to run the store.

I was questioning the pharmacist present at the time of the several of the drugs people came in for. One of them was quetiapine- as one should know- an atypical antipsychotic.

“What class of antipsychotic is quetiapine?” I asked.

The pharmacist replied curtly, “I don’t know.”

At that time, the pharmacist assistant, who is also qualified, hospital nurse, commented that he should know coz he just passed his registration exams a few months ago.

So I continued to ask: “Why do antipsychotics cause suicidal thoughts at times?”

“I don’t know.”

 Do you fucking know anything?

Let’s try something else then. “Why do topical corticosteroids thin out the skin?”

“I don’t know.”

How much did you bribe the examiner to let you pass your registration exams?!

Ok, so I dropped that topic. So I asked about shingles. “I heard shingles is called herpes zoster, but it’s caused by the varicella virus. So does that mean herpes and varicella virus are the same?”

Again, “I don’t know.”

The pharmacist did not look at me the entire time, so I looked at the computer screen he was typing away at. He was on Wikipedia searching up shingles.

WIKIPEDIA.

SURELY, THERE ARE MORE RESPECTABLE & TRUSTWORTHY REFERENCES TO TURN TO? ALL OF THEM HAVE AN ELECTRONIC VERSION AVAILABLE. MEDSCAPE. AUSTRALIAN MEDICINES HANDBOOK. MIMS ONLINE. THERAPEUTIC GUIDELINES.

“I don’t know anything. Stop asking me questions.”

That’s exactly what I did. So for the rest of my externship that day, I didn’t ask any questions. This incompetent pharmacist went on to report me with an “attitude, and is not willing to learn”.

Oh wait, what? So did not see that one coming.

I have seen a variety of pharmacists in the professional field over the three years I’ve been studying and working in pharmacies. I’ve seen the best pharmacists who are able to treat palmoplantar  psoriasis and various skin conditions better than doctors can. I’ve also seen the negligent; one pharmacist gave out Nurofen Plus to a patient with an active peptic ulcer just because they requested it by brand.  Even with my incomplete education, I know that I should have offered an alternative, perhaps paracetamol [acetaminophen] for your headache?

The pharmacist I worked with during my externship rivals the worst pharmacists simply due to his knowledge gap. I don’t think customers realise it because all he does is assume the doctor has given all the instructions to the patient, so he doesn’t have to do it, and most customers are regulars so they’ve been on the medications for many years.

Being a young pharmacist isn’t an excuse for being ignorant. Pharmacists are the second most respected profession [second only to emergency workers] so don’t tarnish our reputation!

Should pharmacists get a lunch break by law?

Posted on September 14, 2011

I got the following email from a reader asking my thoughts on lunches for pharmacists. I'm not going to post his name or the store he works for, but you'll get the jist of what is going on:

 

I've been working for [this pharmacy] in [the Southeastern USA] for many years (5+ let's say). Before that, I spent 12 years at Walgreens. Is there any legal issue in a company not allowing their pharmacists a legitimate, leave the pharmacy, timed, lunch break? Well, legally, it must not be, or they would not be so easily getting away with it. As far as I know, it is the ONLY corporately run pharmacy not giving a lunch break in the state in which I live. All the usual suspects, when it comes to these human rights issues, Walgreeens, CVS, Wal-mart, Sam's Club, provide lunches -- sometimes even within a CLOSED PHARMACY. Do you have any comments? How can I post such a question on your site to ask other professionals?

 

Well, you did it in the right way. Send your questions, comments or guest articles via the CONTACT Page and I'll see what I can do.

Anyway, readers, tell him what you know. Here's what I know. Pharmacists are sometimes listed as salaried management and therefore fall under different guidelines than your every day cashier, technician, or stocker. I'd bet my bottom dollar that is the case where you work. That's the exact story where I live. Fortunately, I'm able to go sit down, even if just for a few minutes to eat some lunch every day. Even if it's a scattered 15 minutes. I shoot for noon when I know the phone will slow down as the nurses are all out to lunch, and patient's slow a bit too -- at least the ones that have jobs. So, I woof down my lunch. If you can't do that, I'm sorry. Move to another store/chain or transfer to a slower store that would allow you more time in general for afternoon tea...:-)

 

Anything else for the good of the order?

We are the side ‘The Profession’ wishes to shun…

Posted on February 27, 2011

TAestP Angriest Pharmacist:    @theangrypharm We may be referenced in a article without being contacted for FAIR rebuttal!   http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21098377

TAestP Angriest Pharmacist:    Website references the vitriol spilled from both TAP and I as your 'leaders'... http://bit.ly/eAIDwr

Here's the Abstract:

Use of blogs by pharmacists.

Clauson KA, Ekins J, Goncz CE.

College of Pharmacy, Nova Southeastern University, Fort Lauderdale, FL 33328, USA. clauson@nova.edu

Abstract

PURPOSE: The characteristics of pharmacist blogs were examined.

METHODS: Internet search engines, blog aggregators, and blog rolls were used to identify pharmacist blogs. Six categories were developed to evaluate blogs, including practice-based topics, identifying information, positive language, critical language, professionalism, and miscellaneous. The most recent five posts on each pharmacist blog were reviewed. Descriptive statistics were used to characterize the results.

RESULTS: A total of 117 blogs were identified, 44 of which were designated as pharmacist blogs. No blogs contained patient-identifying information. Anonymity was maintained by 68.2% of bloggers. Bloggers practiced in community (43.1%) and noncommunity (43.1%) settings. Pharmacists most commonly used positive language to describe the profession (32%), other health care professionals (25%), and patients (25%). The highest rates of critical language were found in descriptions of patients (57%) and other health care professionals (44%). Almost half of pharmacist blogs contained explicit or unprofessional language. Overall, community practitioner blogs were substantially more likely than noncommunity practitioner blogs to use unprofessional and critical language. Twenty-five percent of pharmacist bloggers also maintained a microblog (e.g., Twitter) account.

CONCLUSION: A search using Internet search engines, blog aggregators, and blog rolls identified 117 blogs, 44 of which met the study criteria for designation as pharmacist blogs. The majority of pharmacist blogs included some type of discussion of pharmacologic therapies. Pharmacists most commonly used positive language to describe the profession, other health care professionals, and patients. The highest rates of critical language were found in descriptions of patients and other health care professionals.

PMID: 21098377 [PubMed - in process]

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I really would like the full text of this article if at all possible (meaning if a current student emails it to me I'd love them forever)....I really would like to see what they studied, who they studied, and their goals. I'd also like to see if they mentioned the upcoming @AngryPharmcast --- that'll blow their minds out of the water....

Pharmacy Class of Trade

Posted on January 26, 2011

I got the following message from Steve Moore, an independent Pharmacy owner. I wasn't sure what to do with it or how to share it with the world. Therefore, I'm just going to post it here for all to see. I'm not going to post his contact info, but he's welcome to post that in the comments section (as well as links and references).

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My name is Steve Moore and I am an independent pharmacy owner from New York.  I am wondering if you would consider sharing your thoughts on the following topic, one I think that most pharmacists would be interested in.

When it comes to business side of our profession, most pharmacists don't have a clue as to what is going on.  As an owner, it affects me more than most, and I don't comprehend all of the complexities.  After speaking to some other pharmacists in my area, I came to realize that they are under the impression that mail order pharmacies were simply discount pharmacies, that mail order just filled prescriptions at a lower price than retail pharmacies.  That may or not be true, the larger issue is that mail order pharmacies are able to offer deeply discounted medications because they are purchasing medication a better price than retail pharmacies.  PHARMA grants them a special class of trade (COT).  I attempted to find a law/rule/etc that grants mail order pharmacies these special buying privileges as a different COT and was unable to do so.  I wrote to consulting companies and wholesalers and I was told that there is no such list.  If there is no government approved or provided COT list, what makes mail order special other than the fact that PHARMA says so?

My question is, if mail order can do it, why can't community pharmacy designate itself as a special COT?  Mail order promotes safety and accuracy, we have a robots and workflow too.  We can fill antibiotics and pain meds, mail order cannot.  We can deliver meds the same day, mail order cannot.  Mail order simply cannot meet 100% of our pharmaceutical needs.  If any group deserves a price break from PHARMA, shouldn't it be the group that can meet more needs?

There is a federal law known as the Robinson-Patman Act which specifically prohibits companies from selling the same products to competitors at different prices (order of magnitude wise).  Exemptions to this act exist to allow nonprofits (such as hospitals) to purchase medication for their own use at a discounted price.  In addition to the hospital COT, there is a 340b class (for now), a long term care class, and depending upon who you ask, anywhere from 7 - 23 classes.  The one constant is that the retail pharmacy COT pays the most for medications.  COT designations have been challenged in the past but were usually lost on the basis of own use.  That meaning, the nonprofit was purchasing medications to use for its patients/employees/etc and was not in competition with retail pharmacies.  Mail order pharmacies are for profit and are clearly competing with retail pharmacies, so in my mind a Robinson-Patman exemption should not apply.  I understand supply and demand and that some people can pay more than others for the same product, but we are not talking about a few bucks here and there, rather exponential differences.  The local hospital pays about $9 for 100 tablets of brand name Coumadin, what does the price sticker on the bottle in your store read?

The fact that mail order pharmacies are buying  medications at a lower price than retail pharmacies has an impact on every pharmacist filling 90 day prescriptions at retail for mail order rates.  I am not saying that if reimbursement improves, working conditions will improve, but it can't hurt to make pharmacists aware of what is going on.  I have contacted our trade associations and industry publications but am also reaching out to bloggers such as yourself.  If you feel that this may be something you would like to blog or post about, I can provide some links and references.

Thanks for your time.

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