The *Angriest* Pharmacist You want your prescription filled when? Eat shit…

Two months worth of reader email

Posted on December 2, 2011

Sorry, I've been....deficient the last two months. I'm not going to promise any more, but I can tell you this. I will have a response for Mr. Plagakis pretty soon. Don't expect anything revolutionary. Don't expect anything mindblowing. Just expect a clear, concise response. Naught but the truth. I also want to look back at some older posts in which he referenced me about releasing steam (in a hilarious masturbation simile) and how/why the post titled, "Jay Pee catches Wal-Mart peeping through the window" relates directly to all of it...

Below, I'm going to post several different things that came to me via email or the CONTACT link. I'll lead with the user's name, and if you wish to reply to one, just reference that name....or don't...I don't care...

---------------

Liz writes:    In the past few weeks, our pharmacy has started checking ID for controlled drugs, scanning in new Rx and scanning in hard copies.  All of a sudden, our workload has tripled, but our company is cutting tech help.  Is anyone else finding this hard to manage?

---------------

Rodney writes:   I work as a reimbursement specialist at an LTC Pharmacy, and I'm writing to share an interesting exchange I've had with representatives at Prescription Solutions over the past few days.

I've had a few basic rejections which, were the representatives at Prescription Solutions even modestly intelligent by today's decidedly low standards, should have been able to resolve with much rapidity. Instead, I got stuck with slack-jawed yokels and embittered, defensive inner-city youth. They turned requests for overrides to simple rejections into drawn out, unintelligible arguments, and once they'd been cornered or otherwise became bored with the exchange, they hung up on me mid-sentence.

I may not be the bubbliest person in the world. On the contrary, I'm frank and to the point, but never did I become enraged, and never did I insult or otherwise disrespect the reps in any way. Prescription Solutions - hell, the insurance industry as a whole - has no shortage of stupid, rude, and disinterested people, but I've never had any with the gall to abruptly hang up on a service call. Now, over the past two days, it has happened to me four times.

Though I feel somewhat vindicated by the fact that return calls yielded exchanges with intelligent reps who applied the necessarily overrides with absolutely no hassle, I am perturbed by this sudden shoddy treatment. I know PS has seen extraordinarily long hold times as of late, what are the odds the reps have been granted free reign to terminate calls from "problem callers" (that is, of course, callers who question the rep's ill-informed initial judgment)?

Any thoughts? Similar experiences?

[TAestP's thoughts: I believe the reasoning behind this is, as always, money. When the question is, "Why?" most of the time, the answer is money. In this case, I'd bet if you timed your calls, you got hung up on at specific intervals....something like 3 minutes, 59 seconds. If the agents keep their calls (or a certain percentage) less than 4 minutes, they probably get higher ratings or a bonus at the end of the day. They may also have rewards/cut offs at 10 minutes or 15 minutes. Of course, the person could have just been an asshole, accidentally hung up, or hung up on you because they are lazy and/or didn't know the answer.]

---------------

Lillian writes:     I found your blog a few days ago and I love it so far. From your posts, you seem to know a lot about retail pharmacy so I was wondering if you could answer a question for me: Is it true that the field is getting very saturated, very quickly?

A few of my professors warn us that it will be much harder to find a job in retail by the time we graduate (2016). And I've been hearing a lot of people saying that retail is going downhill.

I know there will be more competition for the jobs in several years because of there are more students going into pharmacy now. And I get the feeling that maybe one of my professors is exaggerating the situation to encourage us to go into other pharmacy fields. But do you think this saturation is something to be seriously be worried about?

For the record, I would try to go into retail no matter what the situation is...I just don't want to be completely caught off guard after graduation.

---------------

Kristin Writes:
Dear TAestP,
I know someone who filled a Rx at a CVS.  The pharmacist later called and texted her saying "Remember me from CVS?  Would love to get coffee with you some time?--Weirdasspharmacist [sic] "  She responded that she wasn't interested. She didn't get any more fills there, but she was afraid of contacting his manager or pharmacy baord because CVS had her information on file and the pharmacist could look it up and perhaps do something scary like stalking.

TAestP, what would you recommend doing?

[TAestP's thoughts: If this is true, it is creepy as hell. You are right that CVS would have the info, and he would have access to it. But, he's already pretty much risked his license by doing this -- taking it from creepy to full on stalking would definitely result in a meeting with his state's Board of Pharmacy. If he is not the pharmacy manager at that location, I would call and speak with the pharmacy manager about the incident. Tell her it made you (or her) uncomfortable and that you would like the manager to give your information to their district manager so he/she can call you at their earliest convenience. Then discuss the matter with the DM. I'd be almost anything this would squash absolutely any issue -- cause that DM does NOT want you making a formal complaint with the board. If he is the manager at that store, call a nearby store's pharmacy manager and do the exact same thing. If this does not get you to an ends that you are happy with -- or you get blown off at any level -- google the state's board of pharmacy. One call to them with an accusation like this would definitely result in an investigation and something would be done. Tell your friend I'm sorry my text creeped her out -- she's not gonna like the photos I'm sending tonight....just kidding of course.....:-D]

---------------

Mike writes:   so...i witnessed a patient ingest 90mg of methadone...the patient's prescribed dose was 40mg...i gave him the wrong bottle

i'm getting kicked out of pharmacy school 4 months before graduation...what do i do now?  should i submit my resume to the nearest McDonald's?

 

[TAestP's Thoughts: Either this is untrue and you're trying to waste my time, you're just a general dumb ass,  or you have done a ton of other stupid bullshit.  Regardless of what anyone may think, there is only one person responsible for what pill goes out the door and into the hands of a patient -- the pharmacist on duty. I don't care if the technician accidentally typed in Oxycodone instead of Omnicef for an infant, I still believe the ultimate responsibility should lay on the pharmacist that verified the prescription. (intentional bullshit and other types of lying and deceit aside -- I'm talking about true accidents by ancillary staff not caught by the pharmacist)   However, it does sound like you are in some other kind of facility or setting. Since you witnessed the patient do it -- not sure what that means as a patient should never be handed a pill by pharmacy staff to take -- that changes the role from dispensing to administering which we cannot do (in terms of pills).

If the school threw you out, and this is a true story, you're probably fucked. Sorry dude. I guess you could appeal and plead to the school, but that's the thing with private universities, they can do whatever the hell they want whenever the hell they want. Other than that, see if another school will take you or get a lawyer....or get a job and good luck paying back all those loans....]

---------------

That'll do for now....check back for the next post coming soon....

Should pharmacists get a lunch break by law?

Posted on September 14, 2011

I got the following email from a reader asking my thoughts on lunches for pharmacists. I'm not going to post his name or the store he works for, but you'll get the jist of what is going on:

 

I've been working for [this pharmacy] in [the Southeastern USA] for many years (5+ let's say). Before that, I spent 12 years at Walgreens. Is there any legal issue in a company not allowing their pharmacists a legitimate, leave the pharmacy, timed, lunch break? Well, legally, it must not be, or they would not be so easily getting away with it. As far as I know, it is the ONLY corporately run pharmacy not giving a lunch break in the state in which I live. All the usual suspects, when it comes to these human rights issues, Walgreeens, CVS, Wal-mart, Sam's Club, provide lunches -- sometimes even within a CLOSED PHARMACY. Do you have any comments? How can I post such a question on your site to ask other professionals?

 

Well, you did it in the right way. Send your questions, comments or guest articles via the CONTACT Page and I'll see what I can do.

Anyway, readers, tell him what you know. Here's what I know. Pharmacists are sometimes listed as salaried management and therefore fall under different guidelines than your every day cashier, technician, or stocker. I'd bet my bottom dollar that is the case where you work. That's the exact story where I live. Fortunately, I'm able to go sit down, even if just for a few minutes to eat some lunch every day. Even if it's a scattered 15 minutes. I shoot for noon when I know the phone will slow down as the nurses are all out to lunch, and patient's slow a bit too -- at least the ones that have jobs. So, I woof down my lunch. If you can't do that, I'm sorry. Move to another store/chain or transfer to a slower store that would allow you more time in general for afternoon tea...:-)

 

Anything else for the good of the order?

Discharge Scripts

Posted on June 10, 2008

Do they even look at these damn things?

I have a hospital near me that generates discharge scripts via computer. It's all based on what meds the patient was on during the stay in-house. I know the process there because I called and spoke with their pharmacist on duty one night. We hate our jobs equally.

It goes like this. The Ward Clerk generates a list of all current meds on the MAR (Medication Administration Record). This sheet includes PRNs, parenterals, orals, rectals -- the works. The doctor then goes down the list and circles YES or NO. This sheet is then sent to the pharmacist who removes the NO drugs from the profile (by D/C'ing them). Then, the pharmacist prints these sheets directly on the floor and they are reviewed by the patient's nurse based on what was said and what s/he expected. There is a space for the doctor to sign. My pharmacy will fill these w/o the docs signature because we deal with the hospital so much and these sheets are not "fake able." I will admit though, that only 1 out of every 50 are unsigned. So, for the most part, the doctor has the OPPORTUNITY to review these sheets again. A quantity is written in on the bottom as well -- usually it's ONE MONTH.

So I can say, without a doubt then, that at least THREE sets of eyes see (or should see) these damn things before being given to a patient -- Pharmacist, [Ward Clerk perhaps?], Nurse, and Doctor.

Why in the fuck did I get a sheet today that listed:
1. Fentanyl PCA 10mcg/hr Basal with 10mcg on Demand Every 10 Minutes.
2. D5NS 100mL/hr
3. Naloxone
- This was obviously in a 'set' with the Fentanyl to pull from a Pyxis if needed.
4. Heparin Lock Flush 100 Units prn
5. Ancef 1g one hour pre-op

How did this shit get by? It was fucking signed by the doctor. He even wrote in *his* DEA number to cover the fentanyl...the only Narc on the script.

There was more on the script of course - they always leave OTC/PRN stuff and we just use our professional judgment on how to get those things to the patients (Ibuprofen, Docusate, Baby ASA). Usually we just grab it off the shelf if they want it.
But seriously? Dextrose in Normal Saline? Would you like me to educate the patient on how to start a line on himself? Should I also work through with him on how to operate the PCA Pump he has in his bedroom - making sure he sets it for MICROgrams rather than MILLIgrams since it's fentanyl? [End Sarcasm]

I'm expected to review my work before it leaves my pharmacy. Why is this healthcare team not expected to do the same? I could get in serious trouble for not checking my final product prepared by my technicians.

If you care about the outcome I reached - I just scratched the bullshit out. Later in the night when it slowed down, I called the pharmacist on duty there and let him know that that stuff snuck through. He attributed it to "a student screwing around on the computer." I attributed it to his laziness or lackadaisical demeanor. He did not like my analysis -- nor did he apologize for the actions of himself or his student. If his lame-ass excuse was valid/true -- it's still his fault for not staring over the student's shoulder...which would be the law for the student entering orders in my state of residence.

Child dies. Parents Perplexed

Posted on March 28, 2008

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gy_FocuLcPyslOqVeaOFan8yo7eQD8VM3A680

I just read this. I'm sure most of you all know about it by now - it seems like something that would hit massive airtime on the major networks. If you are religious, close your browser right now. If you think your feelings might be hurt by someone questioning your beliefs, close your browser right now. Last warning.

It's painfully obvious that The Angriest Pharmacist is not a religious person by any stretch of the imagination. When I was a child, we attended a Methodist church. While in high school, we went to a Baptist (hellfire and brimstone) Church. My mother still goes there. I stopped the day I turned 18 -- it was kind of an unspoken agreement between myself and my mother. I wish she'd stop going and come to her senses about the bullshit this guy spews. I wasn't ever Baptized, but I consider myself to be affluent in the beliefs of the church and all opposing viewpoints. Let's just say this, on my census form, I put Jedi.

These two parents, especially the mother, need to be jailed. At the very least, her three other children need to be put under protective custody. Why? She cost this little girl her life because she trusted her imaginary friend more than she trusted a doctor she could see, converse with, and touch. If this lady would have told the press she didn't take her child to the doctor because Satan told her not to, we'd have her ass institutionalized. But, since it was attributed to God, and God is associated with light and goodness, it's okay because her intentions were in the right place. What's the difference?

Some of the worst fuckups in the history of mankind were based on good intentions and blind faith. If you need them pointed out, you're a fucking fool.

I will admit that people have been dying of Diabetic Ketoacidosis for thousands of years. If this little girl would have been born in 1897 rather than 1997, she would have died in her home all the same. The family would have prayed, and she would have died...The issue here surrounds the fact that it's 2008. Medical science has increased the life expectancy of a white female to nearly 80 years (which is far more than 11). But, the thing that solidifies that this bitch needs jailed is that several family members had been trying to get her to take the child to the hospital for days -- and she prayed. Other's common sense had taken hold over 'faith' -- yet, mommy's did not. Daddy's did not. That's because they are retarded.

A mother's common sense -- maternal instinct -- has to exist...right? Nay -- a HUMAN BEING'S COMMON SENSE must exist...right? A child is suffering from nausea, vomiting, excessive thirst, loss of appetite, and weakness for over a month and you do nothing but talk quietly to yourself and hope the child's pancreas secretes more insulin? Did you get an answer? No. No one talked back to you. You sure as shit got a response.

I've heard people say that losing a child is the worst thing that can emotionally happen to a human being. In this case, I hope that's true.

We did learn one truth -- God does not replace Beta-Cells upon special request...maybe she needed a PA?

-----

Some might say to me, you are a faithless piece of shit, I'd kick your ass right now if I could find you. Actually, I'd bet most Christians would -- Christians, at least from my neck of the woods are very violent. They'd attack/beat up an atheist just like they would a pedophile...They would beat a person with the very book that preaches (in part) about tolerance, hope, love and charity. Christians have been fighting and killing in the name of God for, well, about 2 thousand years now...I wouldn't expect much change anytime soon. [Especially now that we have some new 'sins' to fight about!]

Anyway, I would challenge the above statement about myself. I am not without faith, hope, or love [tolerance of others? I'm working on it]. I hold that I have an abundance of all three. I have faith in my abilities, my Brothers, my significant other, the goodness of a stranger -- just to name a few. I have unwaivering hope. I always hope for better--for others, myself, those in need/want. I have hope that the future is better than today. I hope that our children learn from our mistakes, and I have faith that we can raise them to meet that challenge. Love - one cannot work in the trenches without love. Love for the patient seeking counsel or the cancer patient seeking relief and comfort. Love for the person sleeping next to them each night. Yes, I have love...and it is the greatest of these.

You may call The Angriest Pharmacist an atheist, but I base my life and the way I live off of Christian teachings, morals, parables, and principles. I may be more Christian than some of the Christians reading this post...

I just question the existence of one more god than they do...

Page 1 of 212