The *Angriest* Pharmacist You want your prescription filled when? Eat shit…

The longer I typed on this, the more I RAGED

Posted on November 22, 2008

Imitrex (Sumatriptan) 100mg Tablets #9  ---- $250.84
-Exclusivity Patent runs out Feb 6, 2009
Treximet (Sumatriptan/NAPROXEN) 85/500mg Tablets #9 ---- $222.72
-Approved April 15, 2008 - Exclusive for 3 more years on combo.

Well, Imitrex is going off patent, and Dr. Reddy's is itching to get into that generic migraine therapy market that is currently absolutely DOMINATED by ridiculously expensive name brand medications. As you can see above, these fucking things are $27 PER TABLET. As you might have expected, now that Imitrex is going to have an AB-rated generic equivalent, it is complete junk and no longer efficacious for migraine headaches (with or without aura).

So, what comes to mind when you see what GlaxoSmithKline is doing here? To me, I think of the assraping of American citizens that are already struggling to make ends meet in a time of economic hardship. I think of GSK playing tricks on Americans that may not have as much education as their local pharmacist. I see that GSK knows that people who are suffering from migraines will pay anything to no longer be suffering from migraines. They are banking on that fact. Now, they are hoping that maybe just once, Imitrex didn't provide you full relief -- just enough of a chance to get you to call up your doctor and ask for a prescription for that new drug, Treximet, that you just saw on television. [I've seen Treximet ads on 5 different channels today.]

Ya know, I wouldn't be surprised in the fucking LEAST if GSK hasn't been slowly dropping the potency of Imitrex tablets over the last few months -- in hopes that their migraines won't clear up and they'll seek out a new therapy.

But TAestP, WHAT IF TREXIMET REALLY IS BETTER????

I don't doubt the efficacy of Treximet. But, I have a few insights here. Does Naproxen alleviate your migraine symptoms? I'm sure you tried it initially as it's in every major migraine algorithm after Acetaminophen and Ibuprofen. If you're taking Imitrex, that probably means you failed Naproxen therapy. So, why are we adding it back on board now?

Does anyone know how much Sumatriptan tablets are going to cost? It doesn't really matter exactly how much they are going to cost -- we know that the generic is going to be cheaper. We also know that NAPROXEN IS DIRT FUCKING CHEAP. So, once again, big pharma has taken two seemingly inexpensive drugs, combined them, called them gold, and made them just as expensive.

Here's a few notes I'd like to share:
- Clinical Pharmacology lists "Krymchantowski AV. Naproxen sodium decreases migraine recurrence when administered with sumatriptan. Arq Neuropsiquiatr 2000;58:428—30." as a source for why the combination is better. What's wrong with this study? Well, how about the fact it was tested in 67 (56 women) people by ONE researched in RIO DE JANEIRO. It's way too brief. The methods are weak. It is a poorly done study.

- Also listed as a reference is: "Brandes JL, Kudrow D, Stark SR, et al. Sumatriptan-naproxen for the acute treatment of migraine: a randomized trial. JAMA 2007;297:1443—54." -- This one is cited because it shows that 'more patients had sustained pain free responses 2-24hrs after the dose with decreased recurrance rate in combo vs either drug as monotherapy or placebo. I didn't even read this study -- I flipped to the back page, as I always do, and saw all that I needed to see.

Funding/Support: The 2 clinical trials (MT-400:301 and MT-400:302) described in this article were funded by GlaxoSmithKline in partnership with POZEN, the IND sponsor of the investigational drug MT-400 (sumatriptan–naproxen sodium).

Role of the Sponsors: GlaxoSmithKline and Pozen Inc provided financial and material support, monitoring, data collection and management, and data analysis to the authors and study investigators.

In case you were wondering, POZEN INC is a puppet company of GlaxoSmithKline. And, as you can see, they performed the ENTIRE FUCKING STUDY.

Also of note regarding this filth of a study fabricated to bilk money from the American people, of the 10 'researchers,' two admitted to working for 'Pozen' and two for GSK --- all of which work in Chapel Hill, NC.

-The final study listed in ClinPharm boasting this drug is merely a safety and tolerability study. Well, fucking duh this drug is tolerable. How often do you think people need to take Sumatriptan? Once every other day? Once a week? Heck, the max daily dose is 2 tablets. So, the most Naproxen you could get is 1000mg -- a normal daily dose -- which wouldn't be ingested that often. Of course it's safe.

Of course it's non-inferior. Of course it's safe. But, is it cost effective? No. It's not. Because you motherfuckers at GSK have no fucking morals. You're soul-less pieces of deep fried pig shit, and I hope all of you get the pleasure of having Alzheimer's as you age. You all deserve to be beheaded on Al-Jazeera. You're nothing. You're wastes. I wouldn't shit on you if I got paid a million dollars to fill "2Guys1Face." I hate you more than I hate everything else combined. I just wish that there was some way I could just remove the money from you via osmosis and have you thank me for it -- much like the unsuspecting public is doing now.

You may give them a $20 coupon or even a few free pills, but I'm hip to your game GSK. I'm not gonna play. My pharmacy will NOT carry your product. My pharmacy will NOT dispense your product. If someone brings me a script for this bullshit, I'm going to be having a conversation with a doctor. I'll end up filling two prescriptions and having a little education session. I just pray that you don't send some fucking big-tittied Treximet Drug Rep to me. That bitch will leave in tears...

Busting a fraudulent script

Posted on November 5, 2008

Every pharmacist has been in a situation before where they have considered calling the police on a person trying to pass off a fraudulent prescription. Some pharmacists pass the buck and merely give it back to the patient rather than deal with it. Others are pretty gung-ho and do their best to see the person into the waiting arms of the authorities. I kinda go back and forth. It's a case by case basis.

I recently got an email from someone giving out tips on how to ensure pharmacists have the best chance of busting the scam-artist. It all makes complete sense, but it may not be things that we would think of in the spur of the moment.

I've reposted the "scenarios" below with the permission of the author, but I have edited them somewhat to make them more clear/applicable. My thanks go out to the author -- Michelle.

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Suggestion 1: Someone brings in a fake prescription. After they leave, you call the doctor and verify that this is a fake prescription. The office confirms that it is fraudulent, altered, or illegal for whatever reason and instruct you to not fill it and have the person arrested. So, you call the police, and they tell you to notify them when the person arrives and stall the scammer when they come in to pick it up. You wait until they show up. Here's a tip: tell your employees that when the customer walks into the store and announces their name, NOT TO STARE AT HIM LIKE HE HAS THE PLAGUE!! Your behavior gives you, and your intentions, away. Scammers will pick up on this -- noticing the attention and bolt.

Suggestion 2: The patient will call you to see if their prescription is ready. All fake scripts will be called on by the scammer first to "test the waters" depending on your (or your tech's) response here dictates whether they ever come in. DO NOT ASK "What exact time will you be here?"  RED FLAG. Under normal circumstances, you wouldn't care what exact time it was picked it up. If you ask, the person will know that the police will be there to meet them, and he/she won't show up. This will remove the gratification you so desperately need to see the person leave your pharmacy in handcuffs.

Suggestion 3: Don't tell them over the phone that they shouldn't use the drive-thru. Scammers know it is easier for you to arrest them in the store, so when you tell them"Uhhhh, just come in the store, something is wrong with our drive-thru," or "We need you to come in the store to sign something," they will know you are lying, and they won't show up. Another thing about this that will backfire is when they do show up and the supposedly broke drive-thru is full of customers.

Suggestion 4: For the purpose of this suggestion, we'll call our prescription forger Sally Smith." If you work in a big chain, you have lots of customers. They know this -- that's why they frequent the busiest stores. You cannot possibly know all your patients by name immediately. So, let says Sally Smith walks into your Walgreens at 11:00am with a fake prescription for Xanax. She gives it to you and leaves. You call and verify that it is indeed a fake prescription. You alert all of your employees that when Sally Smith comes back in they are to call the police. You and your employees anxiously await Sallys arrival. Did Sally show up yet? Watch for Sally to some in! Well, Sally has been at this for awhile and before showing up, she decides to call you and see how you react on the phone, most often zealous pharmacists give themselves away when trying to get someone arrested. Its 3:00pm. Sally calls Hello, my name is Sally Smith. Is my Xanax prescription ready yet? If the pharmacist immediately responds with Um, YES! It is ready She immediately knows the jig is up because you knew who she was without checking the Will-Call-Bin or the computer system. What you should say is, Sally who? What's your birthday? Okay. Hold on. Let me check.....When did you drop it off? Oh, yes, Sally, yea thats ready for you. This is much more believable. If they sense anything, they just won't come in -- they can just forge another one and drop it off somewhere else.

Suggestion 5: Someone comes in with a prescription that you suspect is xeroxed. Medicare/Medicaid is slowly rolling out measures to counteract forging of prescriptions like watermarks, heat sensitive ink, and separate pads for controlled drugs. Anyway, you think its copied/altered. The customer gives you or your technician the prescription and leaves the counter but walks around the store pretending to be shopping. If you, as the pharmacist, are going to hold the prescription up in the air under a light like its evidence from a murder scene to see if it is copied, here is a tip, go somewhere where the customer cannot see you do this! They will be watching/waiting. If they see this followed by you grabbing the phone in an adulterous rage, they are going to bolt. In addition, go somewhere out of the pharmacy and call on the Rx. The patient might hear their name or see you say their name and assume you are going to find out it's fraudulent...and bolt.

Suggestion 6: If someone comes in late at night to fill a controlled substance, right before closing time, there is a reason. They know you cannot contact the doctor at that hour and you just want to go home so some pharmacists will just fill the prescription as is. Some pharmacists may decide to not fill it until they can call tomorrow and verify it. Just tell them that rather than give them the drugs or lie to them. And definitely don't blatantly lie to them by saying something like, "The pharmacist-in-charge already left for the night and took the narcotic key with them. I can't fill anything until she gets back tomorrow morning at 9am. You can come back then." These types of people have usually worked in a pharmacy or are very familiar with pharmacy workflow due to the frequency of their pharmacy visits. They will know that every pharmacist has access to the narcotic cabinet and just because one pharmacist leaves does not mean that narcotics cannot be filled -- how retarded does that sound? Turning away all prescriptions...yeah right! Assuming they are ignorant of the ins and outs of pharmacy is wrong, and it will keep you from catching them and seeing them punished for their crime(s).

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The readers of this post are going to have varying degrees of opinions on this matter. We can all agree that is illegal, and we discourage it. Where we will have differing opinions is on what is done after the prescription has been determined as fraudulent.
1. Some will always call the cops.
2. Some will just tear the script up and tell the patient they know it was fake and tell them to not come back to their store (and make notes in the computer on the patient's profile).
3. Some will just write fake on it in sharpie and give it back to the patient when they come in.
4. Some will leave the script alone and tell the patient they don't have the drug and will give the script back to them.
5. Some will call the cops and have them come pick up the fake rx and make no attempt to have the person arrested in their store.
6. Some just fax the Rx to every pharmacy/doctor in their area and then give it back to the person and see what happens when they try and go to the pharmacy down the street.

None of them are wrong, necessarily. I am a big fan of Number 6. It's really quite humorous to hear the stories from fellow pharmacists when the person continues to peddle a forged Rx to every pharmacy in town, and they ALL know it's fake in advance.

Some employers refuse to allow their pharmacists to call the authorities or have an arrest made within the store -- as it might scar the store's reputation or bother the other customers/patients. I think this is a punk ass cop out. But, in this case, pharmacists are restricted to numbers 2, 3, 4, and/or 6.

So, what's the right way to handle the situation? What do you do? What have you done in the past? I realize that stories are sometimes pertinent to show what you have done in the past, but try and keep them short and to the point.

UPDATE!!!

Read the Fraudulent Prescription Writing Guidebook at:
http://deadword.com/site/stripmall/hogshire2/bottom.html
If we know the rules and tricks they pull, we can counter them.

Insightful comment

Posted on October 12, 2008

I received a pretty solid comment from "southernpharmer" in response to Non-Drowsy Claritin.

I have found (in my limited experience) that people ask for your professional opinion only to hope that it agrees with what they already had in mind because that is what they are gonna do regardless. I want to help, but WHY WHY do these people waste both mine and their time???

That sums it up completely. People don't care what I think. People don't care that I have a doctorate in pharmacy. People don't care that I know how to treat almost any disease that they could seek OTC meds for or that I can look it up very quickly and easily if I don't know. People don't care that I've been in pharmacy for many years and damn near heard it all.

All people believe deep down that they are actually intelligent. Here's the fact: they are not. The average American IQ is 98 (that's a weak source, if you find a better one, I'll change this). As we all know, there is going to be an equal distribution about that mean. Those above that likely don't ask the pharmacist for help -- they go to the cough and cold aisle, read the boxes, and pick the product they need. Those at or below that ask a friend, family member, or watch TV (also considered a family member). Then they come to the pharmacy and ask me -- to see if I'm as smart as the television that said "MUCINEX GETS THE MUCUS OUT!" If I am as smart as that there picture-box, they say, "That's what I thought!" IF I say something different than what they wanted, it could go one of three [main] ways.

  1. They accept my professional opinion, thank me, and purchase the product I recommended.
  2. They hold the product in their hand, thank me, put it down (in the wrong spot) after I walk away, and buy the product their friend or television told them about.
  3. They listen to me, potentially believe me, but then argue with me about the product their friend (or television) told them is the BEST available -- even if it doesn't treat the problem they are having (Like pseudoephedrine for chest congestion or plain Mucinex for a cough).

Non-Drowsy Claritin

Posted on October 10, 2008

"My husband has been sick for the last month. He's had a really bad congestion, headache, sneezing, itchy/watery eyes, and been unable to sleep. We've tried a bunch of stuff. Does he need to try that Mucinex stuff I've been seeing ads for?"
"No, no...absolutely not. Mucinex is for chest congestion, and based on what you told me, your husband is not having that problem. First, is he taking any prescription medicines? [NO]. Okay then. What have you tried?"

"Well, we've tried the Tylenol cold stuff [There's no telling which product they got], and he's been taking 24-hour Wal-Phed."
"I think he's probably having some allergy problems -- It's not a cold since it's been going on for a month. I'd say he needs to try taking a generic Claritin every day. He could also use some Benadryl at bedtime to help him sleep. I'm betting he's having trouble sleeping because the products you've tried have Sudafed in it -- which can cause people to have trouble sleeping. By taking that Claritin, we can get ahead of the symptoms and prevent them from occuring. It's a better route that treating the congestion once it's a problem."
"Okay. Great. Can you show me where these product are?"
"No problem. Here's the Claritin. One of those a day. It'll take about two weeks for that to reach it's full potential -- and he should just take that until the end of this allergy season which is roughly the beginning of winter in this area. The generic Benadryl is right here. It will help him sleep since it causes drowsiness. It is an antihistamine as well, but because of the drowsiness, it's best to take that at night until the Claritin kicks in. For his congestion, he can try using this generic Afrin nasal spray. Limit that to 5 days though otherwise it will make the congestion worse."
"Now, this Claritin says 'non-drowsy.' He's already having trouble sleeping and you want to give him something that is a stimulant?"
"Ohh no -- not at all. Sudafed has pseudoephdrine in it, which is essentially a low grade amphetamine. It is what is keeping him up. Claritin isn't stimulant or sedative. It's neutral. He won't notice anything except his allergies clearing up and those symptoms subsiding."
"Yes, but it says NON-DROWSY right here!"
"I see that, but that doesn't mean it will keep a person awake. It just means that it won't make him sleepy. That's why we're gonna give him this Benadryl -- to help him sleep and treat overnight allergies until the Claritin kicks in in about two weeks or less. It won't keep him awake."
"Then why do they put this on here?"
"Well, that's because all these other allergy medicines can cause drowsiness -- it's usually known that Benadryl causes people to get drowsy -- it's used as a sleep aid as well. You've probably heard of Unisom. It's just Benadryl and repackaged. They just want people to know that this product is different from those. It's a newer generation antihistamine, so it doesn't cause the drowsiness."
"That's confusing. You should tell them to take that off of there."
"Okay. I'll send them a note. Hope he feels better!"

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Has anyone else had this issue? Do people really think that NON-DROWSY means insomnia?

Does Non-Profit mean that an organization is designed to LOSE money?

Just wondering...

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