Scaring a doctor shopper straight before it’s too late
Young lady brought in a prescription today for #14 Vicodin. I'm not sure why doctor shoppers haven't figured this out yet, but one of those ignorant comments you make is, "I DON'T WANT THIS RUN ON MY INSURANCE!" That comment immediately raises my suspicion level.
Now, this young lady didn't say that -- it was a variant that can be equally suspicious, "How much does this cost? Cash Price. I no longer have insurance." The fact someone says this isn't always suspicious, but the fact she said it twice (and awkwardly at that) did set off my bullshit detector. She told me that she wasn't on file -- luckily she was -- and lookie there....A MEDICAID CARD! I, of course, didn't tell her that I had this information.
I ran it, and low and behold, it rejects. I call up Medicaid to inquire about doses, quantities and where. They tell me a Norco 7.5/325 #90 (30 day supply) filled at a nearby CVS about 14 days ago. [The Medicaid agent gave me the Fraud Line and urged me to call. She also said that the new Rx could be filled in NINE DAYS based on carryover days, etc.] The Vicodin prescription was written 4 days ago. I called CVS, verified Name, birthday, medicaid ID number, and made sure it was picked up. Now, we have a problem.
I wrote her Medicaid ID number right next to her name (very big). I also wrote a note explaining the entire situation on the face of the full page prescription. When she came back to pick up the prescription, we had the following exchange:
[The most unfortunate thing here is that while the following is occurring, there is a 4 or 5 year old little girl stumbling around in front of the pharmacy munching on a cherry Dum-Dum I had given her...unable to comprehend the gravity of what was going on in front of her...the mistakes her mother was making before her eyes.]
"We have a bit of a problem here. We had you on file, and we happen to have your Medicaid Card and ID number on file. As we ran this it came back that it was a refill too soon and duplicate therapy."
"I don't have any insurance or medicaid. I didn't fill anything at CVS..."
"Stop lying to me. I called Medicaid and they told me that #90 Norco 7.5/325 tablets were filled at CVS 14 days ago. I called CVS and verified this information. They also checked the signature logs and found your name signed to the electronic pad. Now, if you genuinely have no idea how this prescription got filled or what is going on here, I can pursue this matter further. However, if you are lying to me, of which I have ZERO reason to believe you are telling the truth, this will end very badly for you."
"No Sir. That won't be necessary."
"I was told by Medicaid that you can fill that in 9 days. I wrote that date on the prescription along with a little note in case you decided to try and take it anywhere else. I've also notified the area hospitals, clinics, and pharmacies through our area 'doctor shopping fax tree.' I also have no choice but to call the Medicaid Fraud Line and notify them of this. I hope these measures prevent you from making any more attempts to acquire controlled medications. Up to this point, you haven't been caught. In the future, you will get caught, and what you are doing is a felony, and it's fraud. Now, for your young daughter's sake, I would hope you turn over a new leaf."
"I will. I promise. You don't have to worry about me ever again. You don't have to call anyone about me. I'm sorry. Thank you. Have a nice day...." [And she scampered off as quickly as possible with her daughter in tow.]
For what it's worth, I did not call any hospitals, doctors, or clinics, and we don't have a "doctor shopping fax tree" (but now that I invented the idea of it, it sounds like a great idea!). I also have no yet called the Medicaid Fraud Line because I was on hold for more than an hour (I left it on speaker), so I gave up and hung up. I said all that stuff in an attempt to scare a 23 year old girl back onto the straight and narrow path. Maybe it was too harsh. Maybe I was wrong in doing all of that. What do YOU think?
No fix needed — you’re an IDIOT
Some of you may remember the post from a few days ago where a guy asked me to fix his inhaler / aerochamber. Well, tonight I finally filled in all the holes.
He came back in...as angry as every. I asked him what the problem was and his exact response was precious: "I asked you what I'd need to do if I get this inhaler home and it didn't work and you SWORE UP AND DOWN IT WOULD. Well guess what -- the motherfucker don't work. Ya'll are selling defective shit in here, and I've done spent like $80 bucks on these sumbitches and you, yeah, you...right here [pointing at me as if I were the master of all things Ventolin HFA]...are gonna give me my money back....plus some, find out whose got one of these Gaht DAMN things that work, and transfer this prescription there."
Can you hear a big bellied redneck saying this? HAHAHAHA!
He brought all this stuff with him so I said, "Okay...calm down just a second. Pull out the inhaler you got the other day, and let's take a look."
He pulled it out and I nearly laughed because the answer was INSTANTLY OBVIOUS to me what this guy had done. He handed me the Ventolin HFA inhaler. It was in fine shape. I even squirted it in the air to check. I saw the medicine come straight out in burst of air.
Then, he handed me the Aerochamber. It still had the little plastic piece in it from a Proventil HFA inhaler that they had used once upon a time!
He was either removing the canister from the Ventolin HFA, inserting it into the Proventil HFA inhaler (sans canister), and trying to use the mismatched pair which was obviously unsuccessful [and EXACTLY how he broke the 1st Ventolin HFA - which he attributed to manufacturing flaws and ME!!!], OR he was spraying the Ventolin HFA IN TO the Proventil "plastic piece" and bitching about how the medicine wasn't making it into the chamber.
If only he would have removed his head from his ass and the stupid little Proventil HFA shell from the Aerochamber, he might have wondered, "I wonder what goes in this little inhaler-shaped hole on this Aerochamber." And then, combined that statement with the thought, "I just BETCHA this masked end of the Aerochamber, that's shaped like a nose and mouth covering, goes over the nose and mouth!"
So, I removed the yellow Proventil HFA 'shell' and held it up and said, "this is trash." I flipped the cap off 0f the Ventolin HFA and inserted it into the chamber. I held it up to my mouth, depressed the cannister, and low and behold, the chamber filled with a life-saving aerosol. To hammer the point home, I held the mouth piece near my face and feigned a big breath as if to say, "This is how you inhale the medicine."
Now, ignorance and common sense aside, this is obviously an example where I thought I had counseled a parent sufficiently, but I failed to account for the aforementioned confounders (ignorance and lack of common sense). I mentioned this in the last post -- he showed up and I thought THEN, I didn't explain well enough how to use it. Him coming back a second time, just shows ignorance...plain and simple.
When he calmed down and realized that he now knew how to operate an inhaler, something that I had mastered at the age of 4 years old as I was strickened with childhood asthma, he didn't apologize for his swear-laden rant. He merely tried to shift blame onto me.
"Well, the other day when you were showing me how to use it, you didn't take that little piece out of there!"
"That's because I just thought you had the rest of that yellow inhaler at home. I didn't realize that was from something different. See how this Ventolin HFA has a metallic canister and plastic shell. That yellow shell is a Proventil HFA that, once-upon-a-time had a metallic canister with medicine in it as well. I just thought you would've assumed it fit into this chamber much like the other. I had no idea my not removing it would lead you to believe it were a part of this chamber itself. I'm sorry for the miscommunication."
Then...he did the thing that pissed me off more than anything so far -- more than pointing at me like a child, more than cursing at me, more than calling me an idiot to my face. He just walked away. He gathered his things and walked away.
Now, in this whole debacle, I wasn't all that rude, testy, or unkind/unthankful. I was just average...if anything I was a touch condescending. But, I would contend that if he weren't smart enough to grasp the use of an inhaler and chamber, he could not recognize the presense of condescension. But just to up and walk away? To just turn your back without a thank you, fuck you, or hell, even a thanks for nothing, that's just bogus. With all due respect, you fat bastard, eat shit and die old man...
“I’m never coming here again!!!”
The title of this post really says it all, amiright? If you've worked in service of customers/patients, in any field, some jackass has uttered (or hollered) these words in an outlandish attempt at getting their way by bartering all of their money for future services rendered in exchange for instant gratification in the form of (most likely) you compromising your better judgment.
Obviously, this has happened to me quite recently...and it pissed me off royally because I was the nice guy being lied to and this fat bitch was the fat bitch that altered her prescription and lied to a(nother) pharmacist.
She presented a prescription from a doctor for that read as follows:
Pt: Janice Sanveritas
Hydrocodone/APAP 5/500
Sig: 1-2 tabs po q4-6h prn pain.
Dr. Ima Schmuch, DDS
Now, most reasonable people can see that this prescription LACKS A QUANTITY. She brought this to me at, we'll say 1pm on Sunday. After I IMMEDIATELY pointed out that it lacked a quantity and would require a phone call the next day, she remarked that she thought that this was the case, but she convinced herself that the word "SIG" which was scribbled was in fact the word SIXTY. Of course, this would be ridiculous because it is very UNcommon for a dentist to write for SIXTY FUCKING VICODIN. So, we argued about this a bit and decided that she was mad at the dentist for not writing a quantity and not me, but she was pretty sure he told her sixty....considering this lady had been a problem in the past, I didn't care what she thought, I wasn't even gonna give her 1 or 2 for that night (which I might CONSIDER, for a second, if she was a consistent, good, nice, polite patient).
So, she left script in tow. She came back at about 3pm. Now, the script had a convenient #60 written in right beneath the Sig. The ink didn't match. The hand writing didn't match. The story made no sense. She told me the drove over to this dentist's office and caught him just as he was leaving and he apologize profusely as he wrote in that #60 in a different handwriting from 6 or 7 days prior. I called his office the first time she came in and of course, nobody answered. In fact, it went straight to voicemail as if no one were in the office. I left a message at that time, but I knew no one would get it until Monday. Luckily he was there, right?
I told her, right when she handed it to me that I was going to have to call and verify the quantity...and the drama and bullshit began. You all know how this went.
"I have to call and verify this."
"Why? He wrote the quantity in plain as day. You can see it right there."
"Yes, but you must understand why I have to verify this. It's Sunday afternoon. I've seen this script without a quantity and you bring it back and now it has a quantity written on it. If your dentist DID write this in, he should have called or at least initialed next to the quantity that he wrote it in a different colored ink. He knows better. He knows how things are these days with all those druggies out there."
"Ohh so now you're calling me a druggie?"
"I don't recall saying that specific phrase. Did I say that?"
"Well, you might as well. I'll tell you what I'm fucking sick of this place. Every time I have fucking problems because you're a fucking idiot. I'm NEVER COMING HERE AGAIN!"
"And that's completely fine with me. I just want you to at least accept that you know where I'm coming from. I have to verify that quantity on that script. You've had it for several days. What's 18 more hours? I can call in the morning before I even open."
"No, just give it back to me. I'm going somewhere else. This is ridiculous. I've been coming here for 10 years. [Note: this pharmacy has only been open for 4-5 years] I'm going somewhere else, and I'm transferring all my meds away, and I'm never coming here again. Someone else would be more than happy to accept my business."
"Okay...fine...good bye" [and good fucking riddance]
-=+=-
I wanted to say, "Do you really think, for one second, that I'm not going to call every pharmacy in town the SECOND you walk out of here and let them know that you are leaving here with a prescription that I believe to be altered?" But, that would ruin all the fun of wasting her time! I WANTED her to take it to another pharmacy -- or several if possible -- only for her to be turned away for the EXACT same reasoning. I also wanted to write something on the prescription, but that would've also kept her from mustering up the gaul to take it elsewhere.
So, I took to calling all 8 pharmacies in my vicinity. Turns out this fat bitch was already BANNED from Wal-Mart, a Medicap, and a Medicine Shoppe. Now, she can add one more pharmacy to that list for her bullshit.
The winner of the "where this bitch ended up" contest was CVS. I'd talked to their pharmacist Remy, and she politely called me back. She let her drop it off and return 30 minutes later. Remy told her that the quantity's ink did not match the rest of the prescription and that she had no choice but to call the next day and verify it. This bitch politely said, "Okay, thanks a lot!" and putted her ass right on out of there...after showing her ass real good right in front of my eyes!
Today rolls around and I head in there and first thing call that dentist's office and apprise them of the situation. I told them that I believe that she modified the prescription, but CVS currently possessed the hard copy and would be calling. I just wanted to tell them my side of the story. Their side of the story? He intended on giving her 20 tablets and was nowhere near the office on Sunday.
Cut ahead to Remy calling me later on...She verified the script was altered by someone, and the DDS intended on 20 tablets. However, he went ahead and AUTHORIZED TWENTY TABLETS TO BE FILLED! I could not fucking believe it. Remy couldn't believe it. Hell, the fucking patient probably couldn't believe. This was the only doctor in the fucking NATION that would approve that script. He is enabling her addiction -- no doubt about it. This fucking doctor is a problem. I am debating whether or not to call the Board of Pharmacy and the Board of Medicine. I'm not sure if there's grounds for any sort of investigation -- or if I would just end up looking like a tight ass, punk pharmacist...
What are your thoughts?
Does ANYone fix inhalers?
I had a guy come in today with a broken Ventolin HFA. He had OBVIOUSLY broken it. As you know, you can remove the cannister from the plastic delivery device. At the bottom of this cannister is a little white piece of plastic. When this piece is pressed, the aerosol is given an exit from the cannister. Usually, this is directed out of the plasic device. Well, this old man had broken the white piece off, somehow, to where it cannot be pressed in at all. Obviously, this is my fault.
Additionally, he had the plastic device jammed into a Aerochamber in reverse -- so if you somehow were able to dispense a dose, it would spray upwards rather than into the chamber.
Now, I can see how one could say that this is merely a failure on the part of the pharmacist to effectively counsel on proper use of the inhaler...and you're probably partially right. In all likelihood, when he picked this up for his child, we BOTH assumed that a grown man would have sense enough to either use an inhaler with aerochamber or read one of the three separate inserts / literature that were purposefully put into the patient's bag. The assumption was proven incorrect. This patient was obviously too intelligent to be bothered with reading those stupid papers that patient's so often vehemently deny and exclaim, "throw all that crap away I've got tons of it at home," only to attempt to jam a square peg in a round hole and break the entire contraption. Wow...just wow...
Finally, this gentleman was mad at ME for not repairing the inhaler OR replacing the inhaler at my cost. I got him an override for an early refill (the TIME spent was my cost...right?). As he left he asked "when the boss was gonna be back." I, of course, don't do well with this comment because it's a slap in the face and passive aggressive. Just tell me what your fucking problem is and assume I have sense enough to come to a reasonable end-game.
Prior to this I took the time to look up the number to GSK for him to call and see a coupon or refund for the product he obviously broke. He was mad about it still, and his only concern was "What if I pay for this one, get it home, and it don't work neither?" -- Well, considering you broke the first one, I'd say the likelihood of you breaking another is rather high considering you still haven't opened up to me trying to show you how to effectively use it...Alas, you have more copies of the literature (illustrated ones this time -- for the kids!). If you don't break this one and it "still don't work" -- it's STILL NOT MY FAULT.
I'm sorry, I don't service inhalers. No pharmacy does. If it doesn't work, it's the manufacturer's fault. If you don't know how to use it -- that's my fault. I've done what I can to help on that front. You're gonna have to be a big boy and make a phone call for the rest -- rather than "gimme gimme gimme gimme..." like usual...
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